Way to go, Rachel. I love it when someone throws a wrench in the works! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rachel" <rachel720@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 1:30 PM Subject: Re: Modern Optacon > Mike, I'm intrigued by your assertion that numerous blind people could > never adequately master the use of the Optacon. I wasn't aware of that. I > happened to be introduced to the Optacon back in elementary school in the > late 70's; and though I remember having trouble with it in the beginning, I > grew to be able to read relatively quickly with it. Could it be that the > age at which a person learns the Optacon impacts their ability to use > it? I would suspect so, as I know it's harder to gain proficiency in > Braille the older you are. > > And that's something else I've been mulling over, too. I recognize a > number of names on this list from the PBD-L list and can't help but wonder > if there's any correlation between the ability to read Braille and the > ability to use the Optacon. Please, someone, tell me if I'm totally off-base. > > Oh, and btw, my spatial abilities are not very good. I tend to have a lot > of trouble with mobility. > Rachel > At 10:23 AM 11/18/2004, you wrote: > >Olga: > > > >If we are to ever have a new Optacon, we must avoid the hype with which > >TeleSensory surrounded it. In particular, we must face the fact that, for > >largely unknown reasons, numerous blind persons found it impossible to learn > >to use the Optacon. In saying this, I don't think I could be accused of > >being an Optacon detractor; I've used an Optacon since 1979 and it was my > >eight-hours-a-day companion on the job until 1984. I dread the day when mine > >dies. But I think we must be realistic and acknowledge that some -- nay, > >quite a few -- blind persons had the Devil's own time learning to use the > >Optacon. > > > >As I say, I have never seen scientifically-valid research (if one can even > >have such with a small population such as that of the blind). However, one > >clue may be gleaned from anecdotal evidence of one former Optacon instructor > >of my acquaintance. She observed that those who travelld well generally > >learned the Optacon easily; those who did not travel well had a much tougher > >time learning to use the Optacon. > > > >I think that we must acknowledge that not only must we come up with the > >capital to produce and market a new Optacon but we will have to overcome > >this training problem or else the Optacon will be just another expensive > >technology. > > > >Mike > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Ollie" <sinisorsa@xxxxxxxxxx> > >To: <optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 6:41 AM > >Subject: Re: Modern Optacon > > > > > > > Beth, I was born blind, and I read Braille all my life - until I learned > > > the Optacon! > > > I assure you, it can be done! And there's nothing like feeling the "real > > > thing", the real shape of characters and symbols under your finger!!! > > > It narrows the gap, even from a psychological point of view, between us > > > and > > > sighted people. > > > At leas, that's my personal experience. > > > Chers, > > > Olga > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe at any time, just send a message to: > > > > > > optacon-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" (without the > > > quotes) in the message subject. > > > > > > Tell your friends about the list. They can subscribe by sending a message > > > to: > > > > > > optacon-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "subscribe" (without the > > > quotes) in the message subject. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >To unsubscribe at any time, just send a message to: > > > >optacon-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" (without the > >quotes) in the message subject. > > > >Tell your friends about the list. They can subscribe by sending a message to: > > > >optacon-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "subscribe" (without the > >quotes) in the message subject. > > > To unsubscribe at any time, just send a message to: > > optacon-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" (without the quotes) in the message subject. > > Tell your friends about the list. They can subscribe by sending a message to: > > optacon-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) in the message subject. > To unsubscribe at any time, just send a message to: optacon-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" (without the quotes) in the message subject. Tell your friends about the list. They can subscribe by sending a message to: optacon-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) in the message subject.