Right, Mike, got you. I agree, there should be ways of satisfying the needs of people wanting to feel print characters and of those wanting Braille. I hope both are thoroughly taken care of. Beth To unsubscribe at any time, just send a message to: optacon-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" (without the quotes) in the message subject. Tell your friends about the list. They can subscribe by sending a message to: optacon-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) in the message subject.