Who is the list owner for the pb-l list, and what is the owner's address? Thanks, Charles --- >Mike, I'm intrigued by your assertion that numerous blind people could >never adequately master the use of the Optacon. I wasn't aware of that. I >happened to be introduced to the Optacon back in elementary school in the >late 70's; and though I remember having trouble with it in the beginning, I >grew to be able to read relatively quickly with it. Could it be that the >age at which a person learns the Optacon impacts their ability to use >it? I would suspect so, as I know it's harder to gain proficiency in >Braille the older you are. > >And that's something else I've been mulling over, too. I recognize a >number of names on this list from the PBD-L list and can't help but wonder >if there's any correlation between the ability to read Braille and the >ability to use the Optacon. Please, someone, tell me if I'm totally off-base. > >Oh, and btw, my spatial abilities are not very good. I tend to have a lot >of trouble with mobility. >Rachel >At 10:23 AM 11/18/2004, you wrote: >>Olga: >> >>If we are to ever have a new Optacon, we must avoid the hype with which >>TeleSensory surrounded it. In particular, we must face the fact that, for >>largely unknown reasons, numerous blind persons found it impossible to learn >>to use the Optacon. In saying this, I don't think I could be accused of >>being an Optacon detractor; I've used an Optacon since 1979 and it was my >>eight-hours-a-day companion on the job until 1984. I dread the day when mine >>dies. But I think we must be realistic and acknowledge that some -- nay, >>quite a few -- blind persons had the Devil's own time learning to use the >>Optacon. >> >>As I say, I have never seen scientifically-valid research (if one can even >>have such with a small population such as that of the blind). However, one >>clue may be gleaned from anecdotal evidence of one former Optacon instructor >>of my acquaintance. She observed that those who travelld well generally >>learned the Optacon easily; those who did not travel well had a much tougher >>time learning to use the Optacon. >> >>I think that we must acknowledge that not only must we come up with the >>capital to produce and market a new Optacon but we will have to overcome >>this training problem or else the Optacon will be just another expensive >>technology. >> >>Mike >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Ollie" <sinisorsa@xxxxxxxxxx> >>To: <optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 6:41 AM >>Subject: Re: Modern Optacon >> >> >> > Beth, I was born blind, and I read Braille all my life - until I learned >> > the Optacon! >> > I assure you, it can be done! And there's nothing like feeling the "real >> > thing", the real shape of characters and symbols under your finger!!! >> > It narrows the gap, even from a psychological point of view, between us >> > and >> > sighted people. >> > At leas, that's my personal experience. >> > Chers, >> > Olga >> > >> > >> > To unsubscribe at any time, just send a message to: >> > >> > optacon-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" (without the >> > quotes) in the message subject. >> > >> > Tell your friends about the list. They can subscribe by sending a message >> > to: >> > >> > optacon-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "subscribe" (without the >> > quotes) in the message subject. >> > >> > >> > >> >> >>To unsubscribe at any time, just send a message to: >> >>optacon-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" (without the >>quotes) in the message subject. >> >>Tell your friends about the list. They can subscribe by sending a message to: >> >>optacon-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "subscribe" (without the >>quotes) in the message subject. > > >To unsubscribe at any time, just send a message to: > >optacon-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" (without the >quotes) in the message subject. > >Tell your friends about the list. They can subscribe by sending a message to: > >optacon-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) >in the message subject. > > > To unsubscribe at any time, just send a message to: optacon-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" (without the quotes) in the message subject. Tell your friends about the list. They can subscribe by sending a message to: optacon-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) in the message subject.