Re: Camera That Talks

  • From: "Cynthia Handel" <cindy425@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2006 10:41:24 -0400

Charles,

THE KNFB Reader will use various brands of PDAs, as they are available, and 
those which work best with the camera selected and the software.  No, you 
can't just use any PDA, on it's own, and I doubt that the software would be 
sold independently of the hardware.

Cindy
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Charles Pond" <dg140@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 10:25 AM
Subject: Re: Camera That Talks


Hi Anthony.  Can any PDA be used, or is the software built around one
dedicated model?  What about something like the Maestro running this OCR
software.  I now that portable bluetooth keyboards also exist for PDAs.
might these be of use?

Charles

---

>Hi Nick;
>
>Basically, the camera is connected to a pda.
>
>However, the pda is unusable because their is no keyboard.
>
>Also, when you save a file, you can only assign the name to the file that
>the pda gives it.
>
>If you want to rename the file then, you need to attach the card to your
>main computer or laptop and rename it there.
>
>If I'm going to use this device, why would I use a laptop to rename a file.
>I just might as well use the computer instead to do everything.
>
>Anthony
>
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "W. Nick Dotson" <nickdotson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: <optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 9:04 AM
>Subject: Re: Camera That Talks
>
>
>> What bugs?  From whence did you hear it?  Data please!  All devices have
>> bugs, unless through disuse development has been able to resolve
>> everything
>> known, but no new bugs could be isolated because no one was using the
>> artifact in an ideosyncratic manner or environment and therefore no no
>> bugs
>> were found...
>>
>> Nick
>>
>> On Fri, 07 Jul 2006 08:24:14 -0400, Anthony Vece wrote:
>>
>> I'm sure their will be.
>>
>> I'm not putting the unit down.
>>
>> I'm simply saying that right now I heard it has a lot of bugs and until
>> they
>> are resolved, it is not worth my money.
>>
>> Anthony
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Cynthia Handel" <cindy425@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 7:43 PM
>> Subject: Re: Camera That Talks
>>
>>
>> >I understand that there's supposed to be some improvement in reading
>> >curved
>> > surfaces, in future software upgrades of the KNFB Reader.
>> >
>> > Cindy
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > From: "Ham Steve" <k8sp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > To: <optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 7:35 PM
>> > Subject: Re: Camera That Talks
>> >
>> >
>> > Charles,
>> >
>> > I think this isn't a real workable idea.  If one had a camera such as
>> > the
>> > NFB Reader, which operates by taking a picture of a page from about
>> > sixteen
>> > inches away, depending on material, there wouldn't be the immediate
>> > feedback
>> > which we have in an optacon.  This was the main drawback to Oleg's P2RD
>> > machine, IMO.  YOu could not easily scan an image and look for certain
>> > areas
>> > without zooming in and retaking the picture, if it were possible to do.
>> >
>> > A second delay in the KNFB implementation is that there is about an
>> > eight
>> > second delay from when you snap the pictyure until it goes through its
>> > auto-focusing routine and actually snaps the picture.
>> >
>> > Yes, it will read some rounded containers; probably a 90 degree swath,
>> > not
>> > really sure on how wide of a band it will read, but it can't be much
>> > wider
>> > than that.
>> >
>> > Steve
>> > Lansing, MI
>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > From: "Charles Pond" <dg140@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > To: <optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 4:48 PM
>> > Subject: Re: Camera That Talks
>> >
>> >
>> >> rather than simply rebuilding the optacon using the original circuit
>> >> designs with today's technology, it might be sensible to build a
>> >> USB-compatible tactile array in a box with the needed controls, and
>> >> plug
>> >> it into something like this "camera that talks".  I other words, alter
>> >> and
>> >> refine oleg's readiog machine-based approach.  Does it make sense to
>> >> re-develop a stand-alone optacon?  From what I am piecing together 
>> >> over
>> >> time of how the optacon R1D and II work (here a little, there a
>> >> little),
>> >> and with today's technology, it would seem feasible to build an 
>> >> optacon
>> >> about the size of a cassette tape case or thereabouts. (maybe not
>> >> including battery?)
>> >>
>> >> Charles
>> >>
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