Well, when I win the lottery, I'll get one. I thought as much. If we want all the devices that are out there, we have to be rich. Gail The price of the KNFB Reader is, I believe, $3295. Cindy ----- Original Message ----- From: <Gailselfridge@xxxxxxx> To: <optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 5:02 PM Subject: Re: Camera That Talks Has the price of this KNFB device been announced yet? And a talking device that's portable is great, but it won't do what the optacon can do as far as making diagrams and maps available to us via touch. That is in my opinion why a tactile device can do so much more. Some of us work with circuit diagrams and musical notation and black and white maps. Scanning or pictorial devices won't make these things available to us. Gail rather than simply rebuilding the optacon using the original circuit designs with today's technology, it might be sensible to build a USB-compatible tactile array in a box with the needed controls, and plug it into something like this "camera that talks". I other words, alter and refine oleg's readiog machine-based approach. Does it make sense to re-develop a stand-alone optacon? From what I am piecing together over time of how the optacon R1D and II work (here a little, there a little), and with today's technology, it would seem feasible to build an optacon about the size of a cassette tape case or thereabouts. (maybe not including battery?) Charles To unsubscribe at any time, just send a message to: optacon-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" (without the quotes) in the message subject. Tell your friends about the list. They can subscribe by sending a message to: optacon-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) in the message subject. To unsubscribe at any time, just send a message to: optacon-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" (without the quotes) in the message subject. Tell your friends about the list. They can subscribe by sending a message to: optacon-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) in the message subject. To unsubscribe at any time, just send a message to: optacon-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" (without the quotes) in the message subject. Tell your friends about the list. They can subscribe by sending a message to: optacon-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) in the message subject. To unsubscribe at any time, just send a message to: optacon-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" (without the quotes) in the message subject. Tell your friends about the list. They can subscribe by sending a message to: optacon-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) in the message subject.