[AR] Re: Concussion Wind tunnel

  • From: "Monroe L. King Jr." <monroe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2014 19:06:58 -0700

Ray, if you liked that one here's a nice paper about it.
http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a211364.pdf
Very detailed.

Monroe

> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: [AR] Re: Concussion Wind tunnel
> From: "Ray Rocket" <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> (Redacted sender
> "ar0cketman@xxxxxxxxx" for DMARC)
> Date: Fri, September 05, 2014 4:09 pm
> To: arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
> 
> On Thu, 9/4/14, Norman Yarvin <yarvin@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >Don't many supersonic tunnels inherently operate in a "very transient"
> > >mode? I thought that was a common characteristic of such systems...
>  
> > More like "transient" than "very transient".  The idea is something
>  like "we compressed a lot of air on one end, and pulled a vacuum on
>  the other end, and got supersonic flow for a fraction of a second
>  after breaking the separating membrane", not "we were trying to
>  get data from a shock wave whose thickness
>  is measured in microns".
>  
> > (Shock waves are closely followed by expansion waves, after which the
>  gas slows back down.  With really huge explosions -- as in, nuclear --
>  there can be a serious distance between the two, but for anything an
>  experimenter in the same room can survive, the distance will be
>  microscopic.
> 
> Oh, if scale is an issue, YSK that a very large shock tube exists:
> http://www.wsmr.army.mil/testcenter/TE/services/neee/ne/Pages/Blast.aspx
> 
> The 20-meter diameter, 170-meter long, concrete shock tube 
> burns LOx and powdered aluminum, heating nitrogen to simulate 
> nuclear overpressure and thermal effects.
> 
> I'd like to know what kind of concrete can endure this kind of environment!
> 
> 
> Ad Astra,
> 
> Ray

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