Ray, if you liked that one here's a nice paper about it. http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a211364.pdf Very detailed. Monroe > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: [AR] Re: Concussion Wind tunnel > From: "Ray Rocket" <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> (Redacted sender > "ar0cketman@xxxxxxxxx" for DMARC) > Date: Fri, September 05, 2014 4:09 pm > To: arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > On Thu, 9/4/14, Norman Yarvin <yarvin@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > >Don't many supersonic tunnels inherently operate in a "very transient" > > >mode? I thought that was a common characteristic of such systems... > > > More like "transient" than "very transient". The idea is something > like "we compressed a lot of air on one end, and pulled a vacuum on > the other end, and got supersonic flow for a fraction of a second > after breaking the separating membrane", not "we were trying to > get data from a shock wave whose thickness > is measured in microns". > > > (Shock waves are closely followed by expansion waves, after which the > gas slows back down. With really huge explosions -- as in, nuclear -- > there can be a serious distance between the two, but for anything an > experimenter in the same room can survive, the distance will be > microscopic. > > Oh, if scale is an issue, YSK that a very large shock tube exists: > http://www.wsmr.army.mil/testcenter/TE/services/neee/ne/Pages/Blast.aspx > > The 20-meter diameter, 170-meter long, concrete shock tube > burns LOx and powdered aluminum, heating nitrogen to simulate > nuclear overpressure and thermal effects. > > I'd like to know what kind of concrete can endure this kind of environment! > > > Ad Astra, > > Ray