On Thu, 9/4/14, Norman Yarvin <yarvin@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >Don't many supersonic tunnels inherently operate in a "very transient" > >mode? I thought that was a common characteristic of such systems... > More like "transient" than "very transient". The idea is something like "we compressed a lot of air on one end, and pulled a vacuum on the other end, and got supersonic flow for a fraction of a second after breaking the separating membrane", not "we were trying to get data from a shock wave whose thickness is measured in microns". > (Shock waves are closely followed by expansion waves, after which the gas slows back down. With really huge explosions -- as in, nuclear -- there can be a serious distance between the two, but for anything an experimenter in the same room can survive, the distance will be microscopic. Oh, if scale is an issue, YSK that a very large shock tube exists: http://www.wsmr.army.mil/testcenter/TE/services/neee/ne/Pages/Blast.aspx The 20-meter diameter, 170-meter long, concrete shock tube burns LOx and powdered aluminum, heating nitrogen to simulate nuclear overpressure and thermal effects. I'd like to know what kind of concrete can endure this kind of environment! Ad Astra, Ray