Just remember BATFE permits. Not an org that believes in forgiveness over permission. Doug K On Thursday, September 4, 2014, Monroe L. King Jr. < monroe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > The size of explosion I'm considering is several stix of dynamite. > Dynamite is also cheap! With some kind of concrete apparatus. Perhaps > something like a large concrete pipe in a mound facing the explosion. > > Monroe > > > -------- Original Message -------- > > Subject: [AR] Re: Concussion Wind tunnel > > From: Norman Yarvin <yarvin@xxxxxxxxxxxx <javascript:;>> > > Date: Thu, September 04, 2014 5:38 am > > To: arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <javascript:;> > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 03, 2014 at 10:57:15PM -0700, David Weinshenker wrote: > > >Ben Brockert wrote: > > >> There are times when wind tunnels give much better data than FEA, but > > >> for modeling something that is rotationally symmetric through a small > > >> range of operable flight angles the data from FEA is going to be a lot > > >> more accurate than something like trying to use an explosion as a very > > >> transient wind tunnel. > > > > > >Don't many supersonic tunnels inherently operate in a "very transient" > > >mode? I thought that was a common characteristic of such systems... > > > > More like "transient" than "very transient". The idea is something > > like "we compressed a lot of air on one end, and pulled a vacuum on > > the other end, and got supersonic flow for a fraction of a second > > after breaking the separating membrane", not "we were trying to get > > data from a shock wave whose thickness is measured in microns". > > > > (Shock waves are closely followed by expansion waves, after which the > > gas slows back down. With really huge explosions -- as in, nuclear -- > > there can be a serious distance between the two, but for anything an > > experimenter in the same room can survive, the distance will be > > microscopic. See > > > > Atom Bomb explosion (HQ) > <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qn5vysBkWdM#t=75> > > > > then imagine that on a much, much, much smaller scale.) > > > > > > -- > > Norman Yarvin http://yarchive.net/blog > >