You Go Brother! If we're brainstorming--especially with developer lurkers on the list--then what we say and propose will eventually shake out data for our delectation and edification as has been the case of the mention of the BrainPort for Dr. Teller--and his all to succinct disquisition about the nature of the device he is involved with the development of. Perhaps more ideas will "chum the water" and generate more specifics... Nick -----Original Message----- From: optacon-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:optacon-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dan Tevelde Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 8:10 PM To: optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [optacon-l] Re: Optacon research and development Hello vist, I do see the point that some list members are making that they don't want to see a one size fits all device but in this day and age that is what many people are expecting of smart devices. I'm not saying an optacon should do everything but I would give any idea a try before throwing it out. For example I would have never thought of using an optacon to identify clothes or facial recognition but those things might be helpful to some people. It would also seem that the most logical computing device to drive a tactile array might be a smart phone or tablet. These devices are portable and run many operating systems. The devices are also sometimes easy to upgrade. Let's face it that any new optacon would need to have some features blind people are using on other smart devices in order to sell an optacon to the largest market. I still think an optacon could be developed which would primarily read print on a page or box or anything else and have some kind of moving camera so people could identify where text is located to write a signature or anything else a person needs to do. The device could still also do many more things without sacrificing its primary purpose. As far as smart devices go I use an iPhone for lots of things including reading and writing e-mail with a braille display. That doesn't mean I don't use notetakers for Braille but the phone does serve a broad purpose for me and I think this is what potential new users would want if they were to consider learning how to use an optacon. I won't clutter up the list anymore but I can think of many other uses for a new type of optacon which would go beyond what we may have ever tried before. Dan to view the list archives, go to: www.freelists.org/archives/optacon-l To unsubscribe at any time, just send a message to: optacon-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" (without the quotes) in the message subject. Tell your friends about the list. They can subscribe by sending a message to: optacon-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) in the message subject.