Nick, you have expressed very sensibly and thoughtfully the overall situation with regard to the Optacon, what it can and cannot do and its benefits. Someone mentioned on this list something about a braille display, and I personally would not want that, although I've read braille since age six. DOG - Depend on God, Carolyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nick Dotson" <nickdotson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2012 9:23 PM Subject: [optacon-l] Re: Optacon research and development Over the last 42 years watching the evolution of Adaptive Technology for the niche population of legally blind, narrowed down to Totally Blind persons with the physical intellectual psychological (motivation and perseverance) capabilities and access to finances for such a device, finding engineers capable of and willing to work on such a problem isn't the barrier. It is the funding of the development cycle of prototyping, testing, then bringing to market, and developing a useful distribution channel for such a product that is the real barrier. I'm not trying to stamp on anyone's fantasies or pipedreams of a success to the product we user's find so necessary for the independent pursuit of life and happiness, however anecdotes on this very list show the "real nature" of the educational barriers we face--that is, effectively and quantitatively not just anecdotally communicating the efficacy and utility of such a device. Let's just look at a few of the technical problems and their proposed solutions: 1. Nature of the tactual array. It wasn't caprice that lead Doctors Linville, Bliss, and Beard (spelling? it would be easier for me to track if reinforced by an Optacon reading the word and memorizing its shape, or, even using a braille display if I remembered to reverse the contracted braille or got it uncontracted) for the design of the display which their studies showed contrasted with those of the mainstream camp of sensory/perceptual Psychologists. If memory serves; they chose a rate of 144Hz (cycles per second), and that's part of the nature of the maligned sound of the display. It sounds like freedom and independence to me, but that's not the perspectives of our sighted cohorts and colleagues... There were reasons they chose a vibrating versus fixed array as braille displays have. There is latency inherent in the process of setting up and dropping the pins of a braille cell. And, one isn't likely to be able to get an array with the requisite granularity to convey the nuances of letters or other things we might want to examine with the device... It was 144 pins in the R1D, and Many of us found the more coarse granularity of images produced by the denuded array of the Optacon II insufficient to our needs...2. Nature of the Replacement Array: Even some members of this list blithely refer to devices with single celled braille displays as a potential jumping off point for back of the envelope calculations regarding the nature of a non bimorph (piazza) display. I've seen enthusiastic engineering students propose everything from memory-metal arrays for fixed displays, force feedback systems like the beautiful Phantom 3-D display, even the Kickback displays on cell phones. Yet no one has demonstrated anything superior to the Optacon's displays which could be manufactured at the same or lesser cost to the Optacon. Even considering the possible decreased cost of South Korean, or Chinese Manufacturing as used in the Perkins Braille Display--nearly half the price of its competition we're not looking at anything with the precision of the Optacon's display. And, vibratory displays such as those on a cell phone would still make noise, and don't have anything like the precision of an Optacon Array much less the lack of latency in changing the display as one moves the camera across material being looked at with the Optacon. Notice, I didn't say merely being read--I think most of Us would agree that it is the lack of boundaries and restrictions which would be placed on the user by OCR technology and fixed displays such as braille displays--which make the Optacon so Valuable in so Many Applications... It is the Analog Nature of the device that makes it so valuable. Whenever one starts adding digital processing to this linear relationship between photo-cell camera, and the array, latency is added. And any of we experienced user's know the change in sound when moving across material at any speed to see the inherent latencies in a seeming (but not actually) analog device such as the Optacon. 3. Physical controls: I am not doubting the possibility of being able to Kludge up some sort of a User Interface, which would at least comprise the current Optacon's compliment of variation to cope with varied types of materials being examined by the device user: intensity, threshold, image polarity, zoom level, and power. However, it is difficult to envisage how that could be implemented on a one-handed device without requiring either that one remove one's finger from the array momentarily to make requisite adjustments, or, that one must necessarily be a contortionist with the unusual prowess of a stringed instrumentalist's virtuosity. The mention of a mouse's controls seem a poor analogy or assessment of the nature of the physical mechanics requisite to keeping the user's finger in constant contact with the array while making the adjustments so as to be able to immediately perceive the results of their adjustments to controls without getting into a frustrating unregulated feedback loop (it's too much or too little) if one were having to remove one's finger from the array for every adjustment. Now we could imagine an array which would fit over one's reading/viewing finger or fingers, but I know not of such an array in existence or on the horizon, and one can no more predicate a sales proposal on non-existent phantasmagorical technologies than they could if considering making proposals for venture capital for development of a Star Trek Transporter or Warp Drive... And "blue Tooth" communications for a separate camera and display modules merely adds to the cost and complexity of maintaining and supporting such a device not to mention the power requirements... 4. Making a Business Case for the Device: Do we really have any idea of how many Optacon User's there are World Wide beyond this list? Can we prove in current terms, how our past Job Uses of the Device would stand up in terms of today's expectations of Productivity in today's marketplace as contrasted with those We who are moving out of the Labor Market had? Or to put it another way, many of us who used the Optacon in a Computer-Related environment were reading textual data. Nowadays, Unix, DOS, and the underlying contextual text-based Languages applications in those text-based Os' have been supplanted by Object Oriented OS' authoring tools, and now touch screens. I do not put it past the capabilities of the members of this list to have within itself, the capabilities to formulate the requisite technical case with regard to reining Engineers into a reality-based mindset when considering the parameters of such a device so we don't have to recapitulate the Human Factors work of the team who devised the Optacon; nor, our ability to garner sufficient technical data to make some sort of justification that those congenitally blind persons in the minority now--not being multiply-disabled including intellectual and physical impairments, combined with Adventitiously Blinded persons with sufficient Motivation to regain the ability to read/examine data no matter the difficulties and lack of the richness of sight might provide some scant base for a Potential User Platform to provide a reference point as to the potential long-term user base of such a device. However, justifying the much longer amortization period to recouped R&D, tooling up and bringing to market, and recovering the costs of distribution and marketing is an extremely "Non Trivial" problem as engineers would say. That is why so many Adaptive Technologies depend either on lots of off-the-shelf technology which can be repurposed to our unique uses of them, or, for hardware devices which use lots of hardware components which are cadged from other markets and their software has been developed to run on lots of ongoing platforms to meet the needs of lots of Users over a Very Long Period of distribution with basically-box changes or processor and non-upgradable firmware changes to enable the evolution of the next market generation's version of the device. We'll say the Braille Note and its predecessors from HumanWare exemplify those concepts. Screen Readers, and Blindness and L.D. oriented reading software suites comprise the former. And, the rationales for the discontinuation of manufacturing and distribution based on our own community's perceptions and those communities who get their livings from educating, habilitating and rehabilitating us and the associated models of distribution and unwillingness of most manufacturers of products for the Blind and Visually Impaired to venture out into new hardware offerings are some of our biggest barriers. Nick -----Original Message----- From: optacon-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:optacon-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ninette Legates Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2012 5:43 PM To: optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [optacon-l] Optacon research and development Hi List, Could we, as a group, approach engineering departments who might be interested in working on a modern version of the Optacon? Perhaps a group of researchers would take the information that has come out on this list and produce a prototype. The realm of possibilities for such a device is truly exciting.-Ninette LeGates to view the list archives, go to: www.freelists.org/archives/optacon-l To unsubscribe at any time, just send a message to: optacon-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" (without the quotes) in the message subject. Tell your friends about the list. They can subscribe by sending a message to: optacon-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) in the message subject. to view the list archives, go to: www.freelists.org/archives/optacon-l To unsubscribe at any time, just send a message to: optacon-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" (without the quotes) in the message subject. Tell your friends about the list. They can subscribe by sending a message to: optacon-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) in the message subject.