Dear Prof.s and Seth Teller: I am a rehabilitation engineer with a background in biology and in electronics engineering, and am also an optacon user. In ordder to not clutter up list, I would be most interested in furthering this discussion with you off list. Let me start by asking if the resolution of your MEMs matrix can be increased? 1 millimeter is not quite as fine a resolution as is desirable for an optacon display. In addition, a very dense matrix of MEMs might also permit a display to be used for optacon-like functionality, and for producing refreshable Braille. Tactile displays, even screens, involving the use of clays and polymeres are also being researched. However, as with all present and previous tactile technologies (including electrode arrays) have been found lacking. One project does not learn from the others what went wrong, why, and how to avoid the mistakes which are inevitably made by whichever present project is bding tried. My best wishes to your success, and I would be happy to converse with you off list. Charles Pond Ottawa, Canada -----Original Message----- From: Seth Teller Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2012 9:07 PM To: optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Cc: Carol Livermore ; Luis Fernando Velasquez-Garcia Subject: [optacon-l] Re: Optacon research and development Dear Optacon users and list members, This post is prompted by the many messages that have appeared recently expressing interest in a successor to the Optacon. We are researchers at Northeastern University and MIT who are developing a high-resolution tactile display intended to provide blind people with a way to gather visual input through their fingertips. The display, based on MEMS (micro-electromechanical systems) technology, will have roughly one "tactel" (or tactile pixel) per millimeter in both horizontal and vertical dimensions, and will accommodate touch by several fingertips simultaneously rather than just one. Thus it will have both higher spatial resolution, and more total area, than the Optacon. Like the Optacon, the tactile display will be linked to a camera or "retina" so as to provide direct sensation of printed material and CRT displays. However, a significant difference between our approach and the Optacon is that our device is intended to code information not only spatially but spatiotemporally, for example as particular patterns of motion under the fingers. Compared to the Optacon, the relatively higher resolution of the device we are designing should enable access by the user to both more kinds of information, and more dynamic information, than can be conveyed by an Optacon. One use case would involve coupling the device to sensors integrated unobtrusively into clothing, to provide real-time information about the wearer's surroundings, including: orientation with respect to the compass or landmarks; mobility hazards such as obstacles and dropoffs; the presence, identities and motion of any people nearby; the presence and contents of nearby signage; and other aspects of the environment, to be determined in consultation with users. (In this way the device would produce sensations at the fingertips analogous to those on the tongue described in Nick Dotson's recent posts.) The system would "interpret" raw sensor data to varying degrees as per the task and the user's preferences. For example, while names of approaching people might be displayed as Braille, the user could also elect to receive raw data directly, for example to read distant signage or to feel the shape of others' faces at a remove. And of course the system would support an Optacon-like mode in which the user could move the retina across any document or object in order to experience a minimally interpreted tactile version of whatever data the retina was capturing. This effort has been underway since early 2011, and has been informed by many conversations with blind people at MIT, at The Carroll Center for the Blind, at the National Braille Press, at the Bay State Council of the Blind, and elsewhere. We would be delighted as well to learn your opinions, either on or off this list, about how such a system might meet your needs or fall short. Sincerely, Prof. Seth Teller <teller@xxxxxxx> Prof. Carol Livermore <livermore@xxxxxxx> Dr. Luis Fernando Velasquez-Garcia <lfvelasq@xxxxxxx> On 11/11/2012 6:43 PM, Ninette Legates wrote: > Hi List, > Could we, as a group, approach engineering departments > who > might be interested in working on a modern version of the Optacon? 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