[bksvol-discuss] Re: Guidelines for prep of books for submission?
- From: "Deborah Kent Stein" <dkent5817@xxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 18:00:56 -0500
Dear Paula,
Thanks for your kind words. I really appreciate your support. For myself,
I've stopped submitting any files until these problems are worked out. I
simply can't bear knowing that so much of my hard work and the efforts of
the validators will be undone by the flaws in the system. I'd much rather
save a backlog of files and upload them when I know they will be safe.
Debbie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paula and James Muysenberg" <outofsightlife@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 2:55 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Guidelines for prep of books for submission?
> Debbie,
>
> I appreciate the time and effort you are putting into helping
Bookshare
> understand what's going on with the braille files. After seeing problems
in
> BRF files I've downloaded from the site, I've been afraid to even look at
> the BRF versions of any books I've submitted.
>
> I realize most users may prefer the DAISY format, but I hope something
> can be done in the coming months, to improve the quality of the braille
> files. Not only is the stripper a problem, but odd things seem to happen
> with translation. In addition, tabs appear to be lost, so I've started
> replacing all tabs with spaces. I thought Duxbury was a very good program,
> so I'm not sure why it would be dropping tabs, unless that has something
to
> do with the DAISY conversion that happens first.
>
> As far as page numbers are concerned, I have decided that until
> something is worked out, I will only submit books for which page numbers
are
> not as important.
>
> Paula Muysenberg
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Deborah Kent Stein" <dkent5817@xxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 2:47 PM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Guidelines for prep of books for submission?
>
>
> >
> >
> > Hi again,
> >
> > Once again I feel I must weigh in on the discussion of the stripper
> > problem - a discussion which has become for me increasingly painful and
> > frustrating. It saddens me tremendously to find us working so hard to
> come
> > up with ways to protect our files by outwitting the stripper, when we
have
> > no actual guidelines from management on what to do. We should not have
to
> > struggle with this at all, and our efforts seem to be inconsistent and
not
> > very effective.
> >
> > Through a couple of exchanges with Jim I have begun to get a sense of
what
> > is going on, from an engineering standpoint - although my understanding
> may
> > well be imperfect. It seems that the stripper "grabs" page numbers and
> > chapter headings in order to create the "tags" which are so valuable to
> > Bookshare readers who use DAISY files. Therefore, DAISY files would be
> > harmed if the stripper were turned off. The BRF files are being
stripped
> of
> > page numbers and chapter headings because the stripper is using them to
> > create DAISY tags. I have been told that this is "an output problem"
> which
> > might be handled by the engineering department by working with the
Duxbury
> > program, which is used to create the BRF files. I am trying to get the
> > names of people in engineering in order to exchange ideas about what can
> be
> > done, and to find out about the time frame we can expect.
> >
> > I think it is very important for everyone who is concerned about the
> > condition of the BRF files to contact Jim Fruchterman and Janice Carter.
> > Unless they hear from us, clearly and directly, it is easy for this
issue
> to
> > be kept on the back burner indefinitely. Right now DAISY seems to be a
> > priority and BRF is a neglected stepchild. Those of us who prefer
Braille
> > to audio need to make our voices heard - Braille users deserve the same
> > level of quality as DAISY users do.
> >
> > Debbie
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jill O'Connell" <jillocon@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 12:00 PM
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Guidelines for prep of books for
submission?
> >
> >
> > > I can see the advantage of placing the chapter number on a different
> line
> > > from the word "chapter" but if the page number which is constantly
> > changing
> > > is on that same line, wouldn't you think the stripper would leave it
> > alone?
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Mike Pietruk" <pietruk@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 5:02 PM
> > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Guidelines for prep of books for
> submission?
> > >
> > >
> > > > Jill
> > > >
> > > > "protecting" is as much an art as a science.
> > > > Basically, the stripper is fond of doing its handy work near the top
> and
> > > > bottom of pages.
> > > > Hence, I attempt to keep the "Chapter" a few lines away from the top
> by
> > > > first leaving a couple of blank lines at the top of the page,
> > > > then a line of a couple of hypphens, then another blank line, then
the
> > > > page number, then a blank line, then a line with a couple of
hyphens,,
> > > > then the Chapter heading.
> > > > The idea is to give the stripper something to work on that can be
> lived
> > > > without.
> > > > Another good idea is to place the word "chapter" on one line and the
> > > > number of that chapter on the line below.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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