There are two 5.2 updates: 5.2.1 (Mar 03) and 5.2.3 (Nov 03). The Roxio website says: "If you have a version of Toast 5 Titanium that requires Mac OS 9 for installation, and you only have Mac OS X installed on your system, you may order a Mac OS X installer from Customer Service for $20 (includes shipping and handling)." It's the same url as Eric lists below. Leith >To be specific -- it's actually Toast 5.2 and up that are fat >binaries. You should be able to download the updater from Roxio at: ><http://www.roxio.com/en/support/toast/software_updatesv5.jhtml> > >It works with OS X 10.3 (I'm still using Toast 5.2 ;-). No idea if >it'll work with OS X 10.4. > >Eric. _________________________________________________ For information concerning the MUGLO List just click on http://muglo.on.ca/Pages/joinus.html Our Archives can be viewed at //www.freelists.org/archives/muglo Don't forget to periodically check our web site at: http://muglo.on.ca/