[AR] Re: Estimating Coefficient of Discharge (Cd)

  • From: "Graham Sortino" <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> (Redacted sender "gnsortino@xxxxxxxxx" for DMARC)
  • To: "arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2014 14:38:38 -0700

thanks again for this. It sounds like I need to do more research on flow 
meters. I was hoping they'd be a tad cheaper but I think I'm at the point where 
it may be a worthwhile investment. As an aside, I hadn't noticed before that 
you posted electronics schematics on your site but I found it in the test stand 
section (makes sense). As always I appreciate very much all the detail you put 
on your site. It's a tremendously helpful resource.

Additionally, if anyone has any perspective on my other question regarding 
why/how cavitation occurs in a liquid flow I'd really appreciate it. I suspect 
this is a basic concept that I'm not getting but I had never consider this as a 
factor before since I assumed my liquid flows would always be above the vapor 
pressure (hence cavitation should not occur?).



On Monday, September 15, 2014 10:32 AM, Robert Watzlavick 
<rocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
 


The 20% pressure drop is the minimum recommended value to improve combustion 
stability by isolating feed pressure and chamber pressure. It certainly can be 
larger but then you're carrying around extra pressuring gas and probably a 
heavier structure for the gas tank.  I'm not sure about the rule of thumb for 
gaseous propellants. For my igniter, I had a much higher gas pressure drop than 
the main engine because the igniter pressure was lower than the main chamber 
but they both have the same feed supply. 

I use Cox AN and FTI series turbine flowmeters for the test stand. Pretty much 
all of them have a magnetic pickup and put out pulses proportional to the 
volumetric flow rate. You can use a frequency to voltage converter to get an 
analog signal out of it.  There is a schematic on my test stand page for an 
LM2917 based circuit. With low tempco resistors and caps, the output is very 
repeatable and linear. Or you can just measure the frequency directly with a 
counter, microcontroller input, etc. The main thing to remember is liquid 
flowmeters don't like gas blowing through them so you have to shut off the flow 
before you run out of propellant.  With the tank pressures on a typical 
pressure fed rocket engine, just gas blowing through can destroy the bearings. 
Both Cox and FTI have good application notes full of useful info. 

-Bob

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