On Wed, 2 Oct 2013, Chris Jones wrote: > > The Apollo LM did supersonic retro-propulsion down to landing, but that > > was in vacuum. > > Nor were they the first to use "retro-propulsion" to effect a landing on > the moon (both Lunas and Surveyors preceded them). But doesn't the > "sonic" part of supersonic imply non-vacuum conditions? There's vacuum, and then there's vacuum. :-) The solar wind is pretty damn thin by aerodynamic standards, but the speed of sound in it *is* a meaningful concept -- although not usually a useful one for anything except plasma physics. Agreed that it's rather stretching the definition. Henry Spencer henry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (hspencer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx) (regexpguy@xxxxxxxxx)