[muglo] Re: laptop

  • From: prantzer <prantzer@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: muglo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2005 10:07:03 -0400

Hey guys I have owned an iBook G4 when they first came out there IS a 
driver available for video out as well I forget where but there is 
cause I used it. I also ran garageband which uses a lot of memory and 
PhotoShop.
The iBook is a very good laptop I would still be using it if it wasn't 
stolen.
I did however upgrade to a Powerbook which is much better but for the 
price an iBook is an amazing laptop compared to the microsoft junk.
  Now you boys quit your fighting...........Dennis
On 23-Aug-05, at 9:58 AM, Eric Dunbar wrote:

>> On 23-Aug-05, at 8:54 AM, Eric Dunbar wrote:
>>> The best Mac? One which upgrades itself, never requires trouble
>>> shooting and stays current in perpituity.
>>>
>>> But, a good Mac. It depends!
>>>
>>> Are you used to the consumer <ahem crapsumer> Macs like the iMac or
>>> eMac? If so, then you may find yourself to be quite happy with the
>>> iBook series. They're fairly fast (vs. what you'll be used to) and
>>> quite functional but are definitely competing with the low-end
>>> offerings from Dell and IBM.
>> =20
>> If you cast your mind back to previous posts he is using a G4 G/W,
>> basically for emails & word processing!
>
> In that case, you will be disappointed if you go with the iBooks! I
> have been spoiled with the pro machines (with the exception of a brief
> stint on an iCrap) and really appreciate the difference (that said, I
> am contemplating an iBook b/c they are damned cheap... though a PC
> desktop is also an option since they're much cheaper and, unlike PPC,
> also damned fast and actually run software).
>
> What I would suggest as a good alternative to buying an iBook is to
> upgrade the CPU of the tower. A G4 tower with a CPU upgrade (G/W is a
> new acronym to me... Grey and White? What speed were they?) will be
> quite competitive with the base model iBooks, and offers far more in
> the way of RAM and disk space (especially disk space... you can get a
> 120+ GB drive for under $100 for a desktop).
>
>>> Major drawbacks to the iBooks:
>>>
>>> 1. SMALL screens, and, I'm talking SMALL! They're running screen 
>>> sizes
>>> which were standard 6 or 7 years ago (1024*768), and they offer 
>>> little
>>> extra in return for the small screens (something like the Sony Viao 
>>> at
>>> least is *tiny*).
>> 12" & 15" is hardly small!
>
> The iBooks only offer 12" and 14" at 1024*768 (and 800*600 and
> 640*480). That is *damned* small by modern standards (especially when
> the budget PC laptops come with 15" standard).
>
> I still have 1024*768 on my PowerBook G3 but really find that
> constrained (the only thing it has going for it is that it's still a
> much more attractive (albeit slower) computer than the iBook 14"...
> plus they haven't changed the hardware in the PB G3 vs. the whole
> iBook series in the past 6 years so all the iBook G4 is is a faster PB
> G3 Pismo ;-).
>
>>> 2. No video out (yeah, some of them can do video mirroring but no
>>> monitor spanning).
>> =20
>> All of them do video out, icl. to TVs!
>
> I don't count video mirroring as "video out". Why bother?
>
>>> 3. Pretty gaudy looking beasts with less than perfect construction
>>> (Idon't like the cheap white look of the iMac/iBook).
>> =20
>> I'd hardly call white "Gaudy".
>
> They do look pretty cheap (especially the "new" iMacs... the lamp Macs
> were alright since, well, you expect the Ikea look from a lamp ;-).
> But, Apple has also dropped the ball with the new super-sized LCDs...
> they look pretty damned ugly.
>
> Eric.
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I Thank You For Your Time...............................Dennis Prance


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