Hey guys I have owned an iBook G4 when they first came out there IS a driver available for video out as well I forget where but there is cause I used it. I also ran garageband which uses a lot of memory and PhotoShop. The iBook is a very good laptop I would still be using it if it wasn't stolen. I did however upgrade to a Powerbook which is much better but for the price an iBook is an amazing laptop compared to the microsoft junk. Now you boys quit your fighting...........Dennis On 23-Aug-05, at 9:58 AM, Eric Dunbar wrote: >> On 23-Aug-05, at 8:54 AM, Eric Dunbar wrote: >>> The best Mac? One which upgrades itself, never requires trouble >>> shooting and stays current in perpituity. >>> >>> But, a good Mac. It depends! >>> >>> Are you used to the consumer <ahem crapsumer> Macs like the iMac or >>> eMac? If so, then you may find yourself to be quite happy with the >>> iBook series. They're fairly fast (vs. what you'll be used to) and >>> quite functional but are definitely competing with the low-end >>> offerings from Dell and IBM. >> =20 >> If you cast your mind back to previous posts he is using a G4 G/W, >> basically for emails & word processing! > > In that case, you will be disappointed if you go with the iBooks! I > have been spoiled with the pro machines (with the exception of a brief > stint on an iCrap) and really appreciate the difference (that said, I > am contemplating an iBook b/c they are damned cheap... though a PC > desktop is also an option since they're much cheaper and, unlike PPC, > also damned fast and actually run software). > > What I would suggest as a good alternative to buying an iBook is to > upgrade the CPU of the tower. A G4 tower with a CPU upgrade (G/W is a > new acronym to me... Grey and White? What speed were they?) will be > quite competitive with the base model iBooks, and offers far more in > the way of RAM and disk space (especially disk space... you can get a > 120+ GB drive for under $100 for a desktop). > >>> Major drawbacks to the iBooks: >>> >>> 1. SMALL screens, and, I'm talking SMALL! They're running screen >>> sizes >>> which were standard 6 or 7 years ago (1024*768), and they offer >>> little >>> extra in return for the small screens (something like the Sony Viao >>> at >>> least is *tiny*). >> 12" & 15" is hardly small! > > The iBooks only offer 12" and 14" at 1024*768 (and 800*600 and > 640*480). That is *damned* small by modern standards (especially when > the budget PC laptops come with 15" standard). > > I still have 1024*768 on my PowerBook G3 but really find that > constrained (the only thing it has going for it is that it's still a > much more attractive (albeit slower) computer than the iBook 14"... > plus they haven't changed the hardware in the PB G3 vs. the whole > iBook series in the past 6 years so all the iBook G4 is is a faster PB > G3 Pismo ;-). > >>> 2. No video out (yeah, some of them can do video mirroring but no >>> monitor spanning). >> =20 >> All of them do video out, icl. to TVs! > > I don't count video mirroring as "video out". Why bother? > >>> 3. Pretty gaudy looking beasts with less than perfect construction >>> (Idon't like the cheap white look of the iMac/iBook). >> =20 >> I'd hardly call white "Gaudy". > > They do look pretty cheap (especially the "new" iMacs... the lamp Macs > were alright since, well, you expect the Ikea look from a lamp ;-). > But, Apple has also dropped the ball with the new super-sized LCDs... > they look pretty damned ugly. > > Eric. > _________________________________________________ > > For information concerning the MUGLO List just click on > > http://muglo.on.ca/Pages/joinus.html > > Our Archives can be viewed at > > //www.freelists.org/archives/muglo > > Don't forget to periodically check our web site at: > > http://muglo.on.ca/ > > I Thank You For Your Time...............................Dennis Prance _________________________________________________ For information concerning the MUGLO List just click on http://muglo.on.ca/Pages/joinus.html Our Archives can be viewed at //www.freelists.org/archives/muglo Don't forget to periodically check our web site at: http://muglo.on.ca/