No, not viewgraphs. They went beyond those about 2001. Actually Skylon's engines, SABRE, do have lab-level working hardware now; they're about TRL 4-5 on those engines. And it's not twice as good effective exhaust velocity, it's designed to give about 6 times (~2,500 seconds or so) up to about 1500 m/s. Skylon, the airframe itself, is about TRL 3-4; overall nearer 3 perhaps. But even that's had sub-scale hypersonic wind tunnel testing. On 21 October 2013 22:02, John Stoffel <john@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Keith> It would take an awful big sea dragon to lift 15,000 tons. > > If skylon doesn't have to lift it all in one go, why does Sea Dragon? > > Keith> The air breathing phase of a Skylon flight has more than twice > Keith> the effective propulsion efficiency than the part on rocket, > Keith> it's even better than the laser heated hydrogen phase. > > Note, it is *estimated* to have twice to efficiency. It hasn't flown > yet or demonstrated anything close to working hardware. View graph > dreams so far. Any laser propulsion is also dreaming from what I > read. > > Keith> The propulsion laser in GEO shines more or less at right angles > Keith> to the direction of flight. Takes close to 4000 km to reach > Keith> orbit. See the picture of a Skylon under laser propulsion. > > Laser sounds neat, but I always wonder what happens when it loses lock > and illuminates something else by accident... > > > -- -Ian Woollard