[bksvol-discuss] Re: I just uploaded The Book Again

  • From: "Jake Brownell" <jabrown@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 14:01:28 -0600

Hi Evan,
    If the BookShare system indicated that it had a rating for you and then 
told you that the book was put into the administrative queue, then it  most 
likely was.

Also what is most likely is that Gustavo kicked it back to the step one page 
with a request for something to be verified. Did you happen to check the top of 
the comment history? If Gustavo did kick it back then the original copy went 
back on the download list. We are aware that this is a bug in the system, but 
again one of those things that just hasn't found funding yet. I imagine this 
will be addressed in the rewriting of the site.

So, your name didn't go down for the bad copy and you found the book back on 
the page, so you can upload the fixed copy, and no harm was done. Periodically 
it's a good idea to check the step 1 page for kick backs so someone else 
doesn't pick up the book you put a lot of work into.

HTH,
Jake
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Evan Reese 
  To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 1:13 PM
  Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: I just uploaded The Book Again


  Yes, I'm adding to my own message.

  I found the information I thought I was looking for about making sure that a 
book was uploaded, but it applies to book submissions, not validations.  To 
prevent duplicate submissions, go to the Step One download page and see if it 
is there.  But after validation, where can I go to make sure the book I 
uploaded has been successfully uploaded?  The books awaiting administrator 
approval list is compiled by Gustavo, not updated in real time as the Step One 
download page appears to be.

  This really bugs me, because the book as I downloaded it didn't have the 
title at the top, and the copyright information was several pages down after 
the publisher's puff material and dust jacket blurb.  The comments by some 
other people after I validated the book mentioned that the title and copyright 
information needed to be verified.  (I guess Gustavo or someone in charge 
looked at it and sent it back to the Step One page because of this.)  The 
problem is, that if the title had been there, and the copyright information had 
been easier to find, then the book the submitter sent up - with many more 
errors than the one I sent up - would have been approved.  It would have looked 
like I had validated a copy of the book which I didn't validate - a 
porrer-quality one.  I read through the entire book, and I want to make sure 
that other people get the book I corrected.  I do not want to validate books I 
didn't actually check - which would have been the case if the book had had the 
title at the beginning and the copyright information easier to find.

  I will not validate any more books until I have a way of assuring that the 
book I have actually checked is the one that is actually the one other readers 
will get.  As it is, I appear to have validated a book with flaws which I had 
corrected in the book I attempted to upload.  I changed the quality to 
'excellent' from 'good' or 'fair', I added the ISBN number, which was in the 
book submitted but not in the form the submitter filled out.  I added a long 
synopsis from the dust jacket, which wasn't in the form the submitter filled 
out.  Also, I corrected a typo in the brief synopsis.  All this information was 
there on the Step One download page this morning, as well as my name on a book 
of lesser quality than the one I tried to upload on Sunday.  Needless to say, I 
am ticked.

  I wonder how many others have unknowingly put there names on a book that 
isn't really the one they fixed up.  I can't be the first one this has happened 
to.  If the book is approved, why would they check on a book they may have 
already read?  They may - as I did - read the entire book, fixing every error 
they find, only for readers to get the likely lesser-quality copy of the book 
the submitter sent up with the validator's blessing.  All that work for 
nothing.  Not that it's exactly onerous for a book lover to want to fix 
everything and help readers to get the best book he or she can provide, but it 
does take time, and all that time will have been wasted.

  It wouldn't be so bad if the site had told me that the book hadn't uploaded 
for some reason, but it analyzed the scanning quality, then told me that it was 
approved.  The scanning quality of the original would not have been as high, I 
am sure of that.  There were many good pages, but some pages had words cut off, 
and others had junk characters.

  Also, before anyone asks, I checked the path and filename before trying to 
upload.  I even opened the file to make sure it was the one I wanted to send.

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Evan Reese 
    To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 10:13 AM
    Subject: [bksvol-discuss] I just uploaded The Book Again


    Ok, I just uploaded the book I edited again - not the one on the Step One 
download page.  How do I make sure it got up there this time.  I seem to recall 
something somewhere on the site about checking to make sure the book was 
uploaded, but I don't remember where.

    This is rather irritating.  It told me that the book was approved and 
pending administrator approval, it would be published, but that's what it said 
the last time.

    By the way, I was wrong about the accuracy rating: It wasn't 99.6 percent, 
but 99.96 percent.  My mnemory failed me.  <smile>  Now if only that version 
gets published ....



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