[bksvol-discuss] Re: I just uploaded The Book Again
- From: "Evan Reese" <mentat1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 12:22:03 -0800
I saw the note at the top, saying that the title and copyright information
needed to be verified. Gustavo's name wasn't on any of the comments; some
anonymous Bookshare volunteers and someone named Jenny, I think. But on the
copy I sent up, the title is right there at the top of the file, and the
copyright information is right there on the next page - right where the
publisher put it. This is why I am thinking that Gustavo - or whoever looked
at the book for approval - sent back the original version, because in THAT
version, the title is NOT at the top of the title page, and the copyright
information is several pages down below a bunch of quotes in praise of the
author and book, and the dust jacket blurb. Remember we had a thread on that
last week, about where to put information from the dust jacket? Well, that may
be why the book was sent back: Because the copyright information in the
original was so far down. But if the book I actually uploaded was the one
Gustavo was looking at, then these issues shouldn't have come up.
----- Original Message -----
From: Jake Brownell
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 12:01 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: I just uploaded The Book Again
Hi Evan,
If the BookShare system indicated that it had a rating for you and then
told you that the book was put into the administrative queue, then it most
likely was.
Also what is most likely is that Gustavo kicked it back to the step one page
with a request for something to be verified. Did you happen to check the top of
the comment history? If Gustavo did kick it back then the original copy went
back on the download list. We are aware that this is a bug in the system, but
again one of those things that just hasn't found funding yet. I imagine this
will be addressed in the rewriting of the site.
So, your name didn't go down for the bad copy and you found the book back on
the page, so you can upload the fixed copy, and no harm was done. Periodically
it's a good idea to check the step 1 page for kick backs so someone else
doesn't pick up the book you put a lot of work into.
HTH,
Jake
----- Original Message -----
From: Evan Reese
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 1:13 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: I just uploaded The Book Again
Yes, I'm adding to my own message.
I found the information I thought I was looking for about making sure that
a book was uploaded, but it applies to book submissions, not validations. To
prevent duplicate submissions, go to the Step One download page and see if it
is there. But after validation, where can I go to make sure the book I
uploaded has been successfully uploaded? The books awaiting administrator
approval list is compiled by Gustavo, not updated in real time as the Step One
download page appears to be.
This really bugs me, because the book as I downloaded it didn't have the
title at the top, and the copyright information was several pages down after
the publisher's puff material and dust jacket blurb. The comments by some
other people after I validated the book mentioned that the title and copyright
information needed to be verified. (I guess Gustavo or someone in charge
looked at it and sent it back to the Step One page because of this.) The
problem is, that if the title had been there, and the copyright information had
been easier to find, then the book the submitter sent up - with many more
errors than the one I sent up - would have been approved. It would have looked
like I had validated a copy of the book which I didn't validate - a
porrer-quality one. I read through the entire book, and I want to make sure
that other people get the book I corrected. I do not want to validate books I
didn't actually check - which would have been the case if the book had had the
title at the beginning and the copyright information easier to find.
I will not validate any more books until I have a way of assuring that the
book I have actually checked is the one that is actually the one other readers
will get. As it is, I appear to have validated a book with flaws which I had
corrected in the book I attempted to upload. I changed the quality to
'excellent' from 'good' or 'fair', I added the ISBN number, which was in the
book submitted but not in the form the submitter filled out. I added a long
synopsis from the dust jacket, which wasn't in the form the submitter filled
out. Also, I corrected a typo in the brief synopsis. All this information was
there on the Step One download page this morning, as well as my name on a book
of lesser quality than the one I tried to upload on Sunday. Needless to say, I
am ticked.
I wonder how many others have unknowingly put there names on a book that
isn't really the one they fixed up. I can't be the first one this has happened
to. If the book is approved, why would they check on a book they may have
already read? They may - as I did - read the entire book, fixing every error
they find, only for readers to get the likely lesser-quality copy of the book
the submitter sent up with the validator's blessing. All that work for
nothing. Not that it's exactly onerous for a book lover to want to fix
everything and help readers to get the best book he or she can provide, but it
does take time, and all that time will have been wasted.
It wouldn't be so bad if the site had told me that the book hadn't uploaded
for some reason, but it analyzed the scanning quality, then told me that it was
approved. The scanning quality of the original would not have been as high, I
am sure of that. There were many good pages, but some pages had words cut off,
and others had junk characters.
Also, before anyone asks, I checked the path and filename before trying to
upload. I even opened the file to make sure it was the one I wanted to send.
----- Original Message -----
From: Evan Reese
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 10:13 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] I just uploaded The Book Again
Ok, I just uploaded the book I edited again - not the one on the Step One
download page. How do I make sure it got up there this time. I seem to recall
something somewhere on the site about checking to make sure the book was
uploaded, but I don't remember where.
This is rather irritating. It told me that the book was approved and
pending administrator approval, it would be published, but that's what it said
the last time.
By the way, I was wrong about the accuracy rating: It wasn't 99.6
percent, but 99.96 percent. My mnemory failed me. <smile> Now if only that
version gets published ....
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