[bksvol-discuss] Re: I just uploaded The Book Again

  • From: "Evan Reese" <mentat1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 23:45:52 -0800

I'll do that if the book comes back again. If it doesn't, I'll know that everything is okay. If it does come back again, then I will try to ask him for more details. In the meantime, I'm reading a really good book, which I will send up probably tomorrow evening. The name of the author and that of the copyright holder are exactly the same on this one, so at least that shouldn't be a problem. <grin>

----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie Morales" <mercy421@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 8:49 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: I just uploaded The Book Again



This is something only he can answer, though, so maybe emailing him off-list
is a better way to get the answer you want. He does monitor this list
sometimes and sometimes, someone will get a response from him here, but more
often than not, he's got other more pressing things to do than sit there and
read our jabber. <smile> Take care.
Julie Morales
Life is a gift from God. What we do with it is our gift to Him.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Evan Reese" <mentat1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 7:39 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: I just uploaded The Book Again



As far as the copyright information and the author information not jibing goes, the author is Kate Elliott, and the copyright holder is Katrina Elliott. Maybe that's what set him off, but it is correct on the form and in the book. This is book six in the series, and all five previous books are by Kate Elliott, copyright Katrina Elliott.

But if the book was kicked back once, and Ginny validated it and sent it
back up, why was it kicked back a second time. This is the most irritating
part of this thing. If Gustavo had just taken one minute to write a simple
sentence - at least the second time - giving just a tiny bit more
information, a lot of time and bandwidth could have been put to better use.
If the fact that the author's name and the copyright holder's name didn't
exactly match is what bothered him, then why didn't he just say so. If it's
another issue, then why didn't he say what it was, especially after kicking
it back for a second time? I'm going to keep on asking this question until
I get an answer. It really bugs me.


----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 4:28 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: I just uploaded The Book Again



When it gets kicked back with a comment about
something needs to be checked, it's administrative
staff, even though Gustavo's name isn't on it. Ginny
probably was a volunteer to worked on it at one time
and released it.

What happens is this, although maybe you've already
figured it out from all the responses:

After you validate a book and upload it, it gets
checked by a bookshare employee, usually Gustavo at
this time. He doesn't look at the book itself--just at
the form, so if, originally, the copyright holder's
name was not in the space in the submission form, or
if, perhaps, it didn't jibe with the author's name
(since in this case the translator holds the
copyright)and so looked suspicious to Gustavo or
someone, it would be kicked back with a note to have
it checked. Unfortunately, so far bookshare hasn't
replaced any former employees who helped in the
checking and so books get backlogged in the
admdinistrator queue.

Also unfortunately, the copyright law and liability
problems prevent any of us volunteers being able to
help with the checking, which would be really easy and
would unblock the clogged queue.

It's a good thing you happened to notice that your
book was back on the download list. Many of us haven't
been, assuming all is well, and while we wait for our
book to be approved, and we don't know it's back on
the list for some minor problem to be solved, someone
else takes it and validates it anew and uploads it
correctly.

The glitch, as I think Jake pointed out, is that the
original is the book that is returned, not the
validated copy, so instead of someone other than the
validator, who notices the book and sees what's
required, being able to download it and put in the
missing information and uploading it, that person has
to do a whole new validation. That's why, as Jake
said, I and others have started to keep out validated
copies so we can just upload them and correct the
form.

I hope I haven't further confused you and that my
explanation is clear and is not duplicative. I tend to
talk and write too much sometimes.

Cindy


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