[AR] Re: Super Loki Dart design documents

  • From: Anthony Cesaroni <acesaroni@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2014 17:37:01 -0400

Ken,

The O 25,000 is fired in clusters of 14 at time to accelerate a device to very 
high velocity. Drag is not an issue. We certified it for HPR use for fun, just 
like Pro150 series which were not intended for rockets either. If you want an 
"efficient" motor that goes into "space" we make those too.

Anthony


> On Sep 1, 2014, at 5:20 PM, Ken Biba <kenbiba@xxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> O25000 great stunt motor but not very efficient.  Larger diameter 
> dramatically increases drag, particularly in the le, dense atmosphere. 
> 
> This is why all the folks flying N5800s are very amusing.  No doubt 
> entertaining but highly inefficient.  Much of the energy of the motor goes 
> into drag and heat rather than altitude. 
> 
> K
> 
> Ken Biba
> Novarum
> Managing Director and CTO
> +14155775496
> 
> 
>> On Sep 1, 2014, at 1:28 AM, "Monroe L. King Jr." <monroe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Yeah, that motor would do it. I just can not afford that one.
>> 
>> Monroe
>> 
>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>> Subject: [AR] Re: Super Loki Dart design documents
>>> From: "Troy Prideaux" <GEORDI@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Date: Sun, August 31, 2014 8:22 pm
>>> To: <arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> That O-25000 would be a very sweet motor for a boosted dart :) Very sweet 
>>> indeed. What was the 5" variant of the Loki again? Viper?
>>> 
>>> Troy
>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: arocket-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:arocket-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>>> Behalf Of Mark C Spiegl
>>>> Sent: Monday, 1 September 2014 12:39 PM
>>>> To: arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [AR] Re: Super Loki Dart design documents
>>>> 
>>>> Monroe L. King Jr. wrote:
>>>>>> So I guess I need to calculate the burn rate and see what COTS has to
>>>> offer in
>>>>>> that ball park. Who has the fastest COTS propellant? Has anyone got any
>>>> hard
>>>>>> data on that? I'm sure someone out there in Arocket land already know
>>>> who's got
>>>>>> the hottest propellant.
>>>> 
>>>> Cesaroni O-25000???
>>>> It's a 5 inch motor but might work.
>>>> 
>>>> Cesaroni N-5800
>>>> Is a 4 inch motor but only 20kNS thrust
>>>> 
>>>> For home brew, Kosdon had some quick burning motors. You might find the
>>>> formulas online these days.
>>>> 
>>>> -->MCS
> 
> 

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