[AR] Re: Falcon 9 flight today

  • From: JMKrell@xxxxxxx
  • To: arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2013 19:28:45 -0400 (EDT)

Ian,
 
The sun supplies the radiant heat necessary to evaporate RP-1  with a 
significant area open to space. Over a lengthy period of time even the  radiant 
heat from the night side of earth would evaporate the RP-1 open to  space. 
 
The vapor pressure of RP-1 at -100C to -200C is extremely low, molecular  
flow low. You are correct that the fuel tank is a good "thermos flask". The  
RP-1 freezes in the tank and the internal mass transport follows the  
Boltzmann equation. 
 
John Krell
 
 
In a message dated 10/9/2013 3:33:31 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
ian.woollard@xxxxxxxxx writes:

On 9 October 2013 20:22, <_JMKrell@aol.com_ (mailto:JMKrell@xxxxxxx) > wrote






1. Open a large orifice container of RP-1 in space, liquid or frozen,  it 
will completely evaporate.




Nope, because it's not supercritical. It would only  evaporate completely 
if it was supercritical. It simply doesn't have the  energy to do that.


What happens is that it starts to evaporate, this loses  the latent heat of 
vapourisation, which, although much smaller than water, is  still pretty 
damn substantial. So the temperature of the RP-1 plummets, until  it's well 
below ambient temperature- it's not going to be at 20C, it's going  to be 
frozen solid, with *desperately* low vapour pressure, according to  google 
kerosene-type stuff will freeze out at about -40C, probably even lower  than 
that 
in a vacuum.

Then it's going to melt at a rate determined by  how quickly it's being 
externally heated.

But it's typically in a big  shiny aluminum vacuum vessel aka 'thermos 
flask' that reflects a lot of the  sunshine and the Earthshine, and it's stone 
cold- and it has no significant  vapour pressure to convect heat to it.


-- 
-Ian Woollard  

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