No charles, you certainly did not miss anything! Ver thorough explanation. What kinds of software would you run on an Optacon using Linux? Rebecca Blaevoet Please have a look at our sites valleys-wordworks.com and tactilevisiongraphics.com and like them on Facebook On 23/10/2014 1:11 AM, C. Pond wrote: > Here is my 0.2 cents worth. I use both the optacon R1D (this is Not the > optacon R1C; the two are different iterations, with the R1D being superior > to the R1D) and the Optacon 2 for good reasons, as I think Maureen on the > list uses both R1D and optacon 2. > > The optacon R1D has 144 pins in its tactile display, while the optacon 2 has > 100 pins, and both tactile displays cover the same area--that is they are > the same size. This implies that for some applications the greater detail > of the R1D's display seems better for somet applications, especially where > picky details are apparent and for certainly unnecessarily fancy fonts with > lines and twirls, certainly with very tiny letters and characters, evenwith > the zoom of the lense set on smallest. Special magnification lenses are > floating > throughout the optacon subculture lens to greatly magnify crazily small > characters. > these magnification lenses are treated as any normal lens, being detachable > from the retina. > > Readers also report that their fingers become less fatigued using the > optacon 2 and its 100 pin display. The 144 pin display is about the only > thing the invaluable R1D has over the optacon 2, and also one can use the > R1D from its case, and this is not so for the otpacon 2, a minor yet over > looked and annoying detail by the designers of the optacon 2. > > The optacon2 has a detachable cable for the damera so it can be replaced > easily if one has an extra (and we know how our camera cables do to take a > beating). > > In addition to inverse and normal reading, there is a third setting on the > optacon 2 which makes it just great for reading any kind of computer screen > or electronic display. IN addition to this setting, one can press the > "battery test" button at the back of the optacon 2 however many times is > necessary to smooth out the ripple often felt in computer and electronics > displays. Works great! Computer screens with just about anything on them > amidst their busy visual world feel smooth and nice, almost slinky to read. > I have not been even remotely able to achieve such success and results in > reading computer screens of any sort or electronic display with an optacon > R1D and its > specialized computer lens. The special lens for the optacon R1C and R1D > isolate light from the screen and provide a glare shield, but I still > achieve imcomparably better results with the optacon 2 and its admittedly > inferior tactile display with is more coarse resolution. I have not needed > any specialized lens for the optacon 2. > > Although the optacon 2's battery is an oddball cube, it is detachable > andeasily replaceable with a charged one when the cube runs down. The > optacon R1D's battery is soldered into the circuit, and a technician is > needed to replace the optacon R1D's battery, and once in a while calibrate > its power adapter/charger. TSI supplied batteries and power packs which did > not deliver enough currrent for a good optacon 2 reading session. So, I had > a chunky but same-size physically battery made here-done here which delivers > more current, so it can actually power the optacon 2 adequately enough. > Also, I use a(12-Volt) switch mode power supply with a very low ripple > voltage (likely 5mV or below) which can source 1500Ma, which is more than > enough to power the optacon 2 and give me a nice, crisp and fresh tactile > image. > > The soldered-in battery is recharged by the optacon R1D's power supply. The > optacon 2's battery requires a separate charger. > > The display of the optacon 2 is amost in the middle of its upper > surface,which means that one can use either left or right hands in reading. > The optacon R1D allows for only the left hand to read, and the right hand to > manipulate the camera. > > Although the ergonomics of both optacon R1D and optacon 2 models are > different from each other, overall I think the layout and design of the > optacon R1D(the human form factor) is superior to that of the optacon 2, in > spite of > some advantages of the optacon 2. The way the battery is a clunky cube > infront of the camera when in use (not overly a problem); the fact that the > optacon 2 cannot be used in its case; charger and power adapter are > separate. > > So, if you find the optacon useful and can climb the steep sensory or > cognitive learning curve, grab one of each model: an R1D and an optacon 2. > (A model R1D is different from the older optacon R1C by the way, and I > think reading results are better with the R1D compared to the R1C). So have > both R1D and optacon 2 at your ever probing hand ready for instant action. > > For reading round things like pill bottles and cans (and recently these > supplements in their round bottles to try and kill this illness before it > kills me, or at least buy some time before I take that spet into eternity > which we all must take), I can use the optacon 2, and the image (feels more > crisp and readily responds); however, the display of the optacon R1D gives > more details and finer and really noticeable resolution when it comes to > trying to interpret and to resolve very small characters on the labels > without a magnifications lense written of above, especially when an non-sans > serif font is used, which is 99.99% of the time. I place the bottle or jar > betwen my knees or several fingers on a solid surface, and role the cylinder > along as I read with which ever optacon. Remember the gigantic visual eye > candy on these bottles, and that print might be embedded into these designs, > so one must be skillful with the camera's movement and stead-handed. Using > any optacon os like flying a helicopter with its focused multitasking all > co-ordinated by the trained and experienced brain. > > Oh yes. The optacon 2 has a serial port, whereas the optacon R1X (C or D) > does not. Software does esist to run the optacon on a DOS machine, but as > far as I know, none has been written to run the optacon 2 on a Windows or > Mac. I'm sur the proper USB-to-Serial converter cable with the right chip > set can be found, and the interface manual for the optacon 2's serial port > does exist. This might mean nothing for what you need it, but it's out > there. > > Have I missed anything? > > Charles back from his church retreat with an overloaded to-do list. > > > Strangely, I have the parts here to build at least 8 R1D optaccons, ut my > health condition simply no longer allows me to do what I used to take for > granted. The Lord giveth and the Lord taketh away. Praise the Name of the > Lord, for he knows our weaknesses, and he cares of us. I know exactly what > to do and how to run tests for boards, the standard TSI tests (they have > test point built into the optacons), and individual component tests. Also, > a built-up store of experience helps. However, I can no longer hold the > soldering pencil still, the solder and the copper braid. I had offered my > stash of parts to Dave Godfrey in merry old' England, but because if inport > charges and such it would have been a costly venture. So, I might contac > Richard Oehm and sent the old lot--two boxes--to him. In one case, for > example, it looks like either a 47V or 48V zener diode is shot, or its > current limiting resistor, and this is easy as doing up a botton to test and > to replace. However, I can no longer solder and desolder, so I can do no > nuts and bolts testing. The Power-Timing Board (if I am corrrect) blew all > 24 chips embedded in the invaluable tactile displays. These dksplays can > indeed be rebuilt with Much patience, and if the engineers charged cost per > hour, or at a prescribed rate, it would be a costly repair job, and yet > several more optacons would be in circulatio. > > I had people here who did soldering and esoldering for e, and I looked over > their shoulder and did the bench testing, but I can no longer guarangee the > slipping quality of their work, and therefore my results as well (No doubt > they will squawk at reading this and dismiss as Chuckie being ultrafixated > on details, but so be it. If they don't liek what they see in the > proverbail mirror, no need to smahs the mirror; take an honset look at their > work and simply consider it and if necessary brush on the bbasics again. > These folks wer excellent in their tine, and they could be again.) > Meanwhile, that leaves us with very few optacon maintainers through the > entire earth. > > My vote is to try and get both and R1D moeel )not an R1C if you can have the > choice), and an optacon 2. They both have their place. I believe Maureen, > Hogg, a zealous supporter of optacon technolgies (and she also like the girl > gi=uide Hawaian macaroons they sell) uses several pairs of both the R1D and > the optacon 2; one at hoe an the other pair at work An excelltnt > arrangment. > > Charles just back from his church trip and still recovering. > ----- > Original Message----- > From: Sarah Clark > Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 11:35 AM > To: optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [optacon-l] R1D vs Optacon 2 > > Hello everyone, > We have finally decided to purchase an optacon, and are trying to determine > which model to get. My husband has used one in the past, but I never have, > and he doesn't think he ever used one of the later models. > > We like the idea of the Optacon 2 because of the ability to use it on > computer screens and other LCD displays. Is the R1D able to read any of > these displays? (In addition to computers, I'm thinking of electronics, such > as displays on microwaves, stereos, etc. > > Also, I have read that the R1D has more image arrays, 144 vs 100 I believe. > But I am unsure as to what this actually means, and how it would impact the > experience. For instance, does this mean larger images, more detailed, more > of the image appearing at one time, etc? Is it easier to recognize letters > with the r1D? Or if I have never had exposure to either, would I not really > notice the difference? > > Also, what kinds of items can you read with the optacon? I realize it can be > used to read printed documents, but what about things that are not flat, > such as cans, pill bottles, remotes with buttons, etc. > > I would greatly appreciate any input anyone may have. And in case it is > helpful, I lost my vision as a young adult, so I already know all the > alphanumeric characters, so won't have that big learning curve to overcome. > > Thanks, > Sarah > to view the list archives, go to: > > www.freelists.org/archives/optacon-l > > To unsubscribe at any time, just send a message to: > > optacon-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" (without the > quotes) in the message subject. > > Tell your friends about the list. 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