Actually, Linda, foreign language braille has more than just special symbols. The same six dots are used but, except for the stand-alone alphabet letters (and even there, there is some change) all contractions, etc, denote different words, combinations of letters etc. So, if you wanted to learn Portugese and Portugese braille, you would, in effect, be learning two languages, or, at least one language and another shorthand. And you're right; most transcribers, here, at least, wouldn't know the Portugese braille. I taught myself a lot of German braille by reading fairytales. You start with the standard, "Once upon a time" or its equivalent and go from there. It was tedious but do-able. It wasn't until I had a good headstart that I got a German braille workbook. And this is off topic, so to legitimize, as it were, this email, I'll just say (as I have, once before) that I was given private Optacon lessons by one of TSI's licensed instructors. She came to my home, and I remember the tears roling down my face in joy, as I read my first page! I even cried when I read an address and phone number from the telephone directory! Sharlene. P.S. I don't believe I've ever had a brand-new optacon, although I could be wrong. I bought my first from a guy I'd known since nursery school. He was working for NASA at the time, but couldn't work with the optacon at all (he never read braille very well, either, but that, I think, was due more to the fact that he always had sighted readers than anything else). Anyway, he gave me a very good deal on his optacon, which was barely used, and I still have it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Gehres" <ljgehres@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 12:11 PM Subject: Re: On the Optacon buzz + some venting > Hi Fran, > > Best of luck with your class in Portugese. I would imagine that there are > special Braille signs in each language, and that few transcribers would know > how to accurately braille foreign languages ... but perhaps that's where a > computer program such as Duxbury would come into play. I used to write > print notes in school all the time ... that is, notes to sighted friends. > The only handwriting I can do is my name, but at one time I could write both > uppercase and lower case print letters very well. I've not had a need to do > it in years, though, so I am out of practice. Like anything else, the > memorization of the print shapes and the ability to write with pen or pencil > takes practice. > > Linda G. > > > > > To unsubscribe at any time, just send a message to: > > optacon-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" (without the quotes) in the message subject. > > Tell your friends about the list. They can subscribe by sending a message to: > > optacon-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) in the message subject. > To unsubscribe at any time, just send a message to: optacon-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" (without the quotes) in the message subject. Tell your friends about the list. They can subscribe by sending a message to: optacon-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) in the message subject.