[optacon-l] Re: Learning Chinese
- From: Mallard <mallard@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2012 23:14:27 +0100
Welll, Fran, cyrillic is no trouble... I studied in Russia in the '70's,
with my Optacon, and I still read cyrillic easily. And Hebrew as well...
But chinese - that's another story altogether, and I never even tried...
Ciao,
Ollie
Il 04/11/2012 23.07, Fran ha scritto:
> I'm curious, did you really learn Chinese with the optacon,Antonio??
> I mentioned cyrillic, but Chinese is a totally differentthing!! WOW!
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mallard" <mallard@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2012 10:52 PM
> Subject: [optacon-l] Re: Optacon Podcasts
>
>
>> He's shy and won't tell us... But I know he even started studying
>> Chinese with his Optacon... In the late 70's - early '80', I think.
>>
>> Ciao,
>> Ollie
>>
>>
>>
>> Il 04/11/2012 22.45, Antonio Quatraro ha scritto:
>>> Yes,
>>> Italy has experienced an epic age with optacon, and I am glad to tell you
>>> I
>>> was right in the middle!
>>> Antonio
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Fran" <fran.italy@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2012 10:27 PM
>>> Subject: [optacon-l] Re: Optacon Podcasts
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Ollie,
>>>> I totally agree with you. I think the sighted are generally more
>>>> impressed
>>>> by the optacon than many blind people are. I see how amazed and
>>>> fascinated
>>>> the sighted get when I show them the optacon, or simply by hearing about
>>>> it.
>>>>
>>>> Oh forget Italian politicians! LOL Well actually, I don't know who was
>>>> responsible for bringing the optacon to Italy in the 70s, but they did
>>>> an
>>>> excellent job here! I was introduced to the optacon in 1977 when I
>>>> started
>>>> 1st grade, and I'd guess all Italian blind kids were exposed to it in
>>>> those
>>>> years. I don't know if other countries enjoyed this privilege.
>>>>
>>>> Ciao ciao!
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Mallard" <mallard@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2012 10:19 PM
>>>> Subject: [optacon-l] Re: Optacon Podcasts
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Yes, Fran, I agree.
>>>>> Maybe one of our problems is that we keep thinking only in terms of the
>>>>> blind and visually impaired community, while I think we should aim at
>>>>> communicating a lot more with the sighted world.
>>>>>
>>>>> The "authorities" David mentioned in his message threw a number of
>>>>> precious Optacons into the trash bin, because they dind't probably
>>>>> understand their value to a blind person.
>>>>>
>>>>> Using an Optacon means allowing a blind person to fulfill tasks that
>>>>> they couldn't cary out otherwise. This means being able to get better
>>>>> jobs, earning higher salaries, paying higher taxes, and not being a
>>>>> burden on the community.
>>>>>
>>>>> If our authorities could be made to understand this (I'm pretty
>>>>> hopeless
>>>>> as regards Italian politicians, by the way...), we would aready have
>>>>> gone quite a long way.
>>>>>
>>>>> Badly expressed, probably, but hopefully clear enough...
>>>>> Ciao,
>>>>> Ollie
>>>>>
>>>>> Il 04/11/2012 21.30, Fran ha scritto:
>>>>>> Catherine, I don't agree. I think videos might have a tremendous
>>>>>> impact,
>>>>>> especially on parents or teachers of blind kids. Then of course, the
>>>>>> fact a
>>>>>> blind person cannot see a video doesn't mean the video wouldn't work
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> them either.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fran
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Catherine Thomas" <braille@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> To: <optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2012 9:05 PM
>>>>>> Subject: [optacon-l] Optacon Podcasts
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There have been a couple of podcasts made to do with the Optacon. Our
>>>>>>> own
>>>>>>> Mary Emerson is featured in one of these. For totally blind users,
>>>>>>> videos
>>>>>>> wouldn't have much appeal. For those with some sight, the Optacon
>>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>>> have much appeal.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For those interested in the podcasts, I'm sure Mary can turn them up.
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> have a copy of the tape that was made someplace.
>>>>>>> Catherine
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>> -Catherine Thomas
>>>>>>> braille@xxxxxxxxx /
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