[optacon-l] Learning Chinese

  • From: "Fran" <fran.italy@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 23:07:39 +0100

I'm curious, did you really learn Chinese with the optacon,Antonio??
I mentioned cyrillic, but Chinese is a totally differentthing!! WOW!

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mallard" <mallard@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2012 10:52 PM
Subject: [optacon-l] Re: Optacon Podcasts


> He's shy and won't tell us... But I know he even started studying
> Chinese with his Optacon... In the late 70's - early '80', I think.
>
> Ciao,
> Ollie
>
>
>
> Il 04/11/2012 22.45, Antonio Quatraro ha scritto:
>> Yes,
>> Italy has experienced an epic age with optacon, and I am glad to tell you 
>> I
>> was right in the middle!
>> Antonio
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Fran" <fran.italy@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2012 10:27 PM
>> Subject: [optacon-l] Re: Optacon Podcasts
>>
>>
>>> Hi Ollie,
>>> I totally agree with you. I think the sighted are generally more 
>>> impressed
>>> by the optacon than many blind people are. I see how amazed and 
>>> fascinated
>>> the sighted get when I show them the optacon, or simply by hearing about
>>> it.
>>>
>>> Oh forget Italian politicians! LOL Well actually, I don't know who was
>>> responsible for bringing the optacon to Italy in the 70s, but they did 
>>> an
>>> excellent job here! I was introduced to the optacon in 1977 when I 
>>> started
>>> 1st grade, and I'd guess all Italian  blind kids were exposed to it in
>>> those
>>> years. I don't know if other countries enjoyed this privilege.
>>>
>>> Ciao ciao!
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Mallard" <mallard@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2012 10:19 PM
>>> Subject: [optacon-l] Re: Optacon Podcasts
>>>
>>>
>>>> Yes, Fran, I agree.
>>>> Maybe one of our problems is that we keep thinking only in terms of the
>>>> blind and visually impaired community, while I think we should aim at
>>>> communicating a lot more with the sighted world.
>>>>
>>>> The "authorities" David mentioned in his message threw a number of
>>>> precious Optacons into the trash bin, because they dind't probably
>>>> understand their value to a blind person.
>>>>
>>>> Using an Optacon means allowing a blind person to fulfill tasks that
>>>> they couldn't cary out otherwise. This means being able to get better
>>>> jobs, earning higher salaries, paying higher taxes, and not being a
>>>> burden on the community.
>>>>
>>>> If our authorities could be made to understand this (I'm pretty 
>>>> hopeless
>>>> as regards Italian politicians, by the way...), we would aready have
>>>> gone quite a long way.
>>>>
>>>> Badly expressed, probably, but hopefully clear enough...
>>>> Ciao,
>>>> Ollie
>>>>
>>>> Il 04/11/2012 21.30, Fran ha scritto:
>>>>> Catherine, I don't agree. I think videos might have a tremendous 
>>>>> impact,
>>>>> especially  on parents or teachers of blind kids. Then of course, the
>>>>> fact a
>>>>> blind person cannot see a video doesn't mean the video wouldn't work 
>>>>> for
>>>>> them either.
>>>>>
>>>>> Fran
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Catherine Thomas" <braille@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: <optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2012 9:05 PM
>>>>> Subject: [optacon-l] Optacon Podcasts
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> There have been a couple of podcasts made to do with the Optacon. Our
>>>>>> own
>>>>>> Mary Emerson is featured in one of these. For totally blind users,
>>>>>> videos
>>>>>> wouldn't have much appeal. For those with some sight, the Optacon
>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>> have much appeal.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For those interested in the podcasts, I'm sure Mary can turn them up. 
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> have a copy of the tape that was made someplace.
>>>>>> Catherine
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> -Catherine Thomas
>>>>>> braille@xxxxxxxxx                     /
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