[muglo] Re: ISPs
- From: "Eurogarth" <eurogarth@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <muglo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 17:23:56 -0400
Well Eric, my Rogers IS Normally 500-1200KB going by the free speed checker
on www.toast.net (I use the free "image test"), and by the one on
www.Bandwidthplace.com. I used to also use www.kisco.com but it was always
the same as the other two and took up more overhead.
I use IE6 on my PC and 5.5 on the Mac, but if the traffic camera is
redrawing the frame each time, my connection is so fast that I don't see it.
My guess is that "something's up" with your IE settings if it's reloading
the page each frame or perhaps in Kitchener we have better or less occupied
lines... could also be the Cable Modem... I had the original LanCITY which
was quite a bit faster than the Terayon I now have, but far less reliable
(as in zero fault tolerance!)
Final trick to try with Rogers.... always get the service techs to check for
double grounding (one at the house which you can see and frequently one at
the service box which you can't see... if there is a double ground, it will
set up a hum on then line that will kill your throughput.
The ranting I can happily live with!
Garth.
-----Original Message-----
From: muglo-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:muglo-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf Of Eric D.
Sent: August 26, 2002 15:07
To: muglo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [muglo] Re: ISPs
on 25/8/02 16:10, Eurogarth at eurogarth@xxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> Ditto, Eric, ditto!
>
> Even on it's slowest day (around 128KB/sec) my Rogers is faster than any
> dial-up! On a normal day (500-1200KB/sec) no contest, and I don't want to
> even tell you about the good and REAL good days!
>
> Best way I've found to check connection speed is the following link
>
> http://www.borderlineups.com/paclive.htm
>
> ...it's a traffic camera at a border crossing way out in BC on an
> independent network... click on the "live, normal size" and that's
real-time
> traffic you're seeing. The jerkier the traffic the slower your speed.
>
> Eurogarth.
1200 KBytes/sec???? Holy smokes you connection must be smoking (I don't
think it's possible with cable ;).
I can't even get 1200 k/sec out of my T3 connection :( (cry me a river
Eric... I shouldn't complain ;) -- max theoretical throughput for everything
over a 10 BaseT connection at full blast (my hub is limiting factor) is 1280
KByte/sec (10 megabit/sec for 10 BaseT). You have to factor in at least 10%
overhead for TCP/IP and ethernet packets and you're down to ~1000 KByte/sec
at the theoretical max. I can only get my software to report megabyte/sec
range d/ls (>1024 KByte/sec) when transferring files from mcgill's ftp
server (ironically U of Ts own servers tend to max out at 400-600 K/sec on
big file transfers... I think the aerial photo server I use isn't a very
heavy duty web server :(
Fastest I ever saw on Rogers was 250-300 K/sec (burst) & 200 K/sec
(sustained) in London and 400 K/sec (burst) & 300 K/sec sustained (you can
watch live video with that) in Scarborough.
PS I don't know if this'll apply to you but on-line QuickTime streaming of
CBC Radio 2 is amazing! The quality of Radio 2 is as good (if not better)
than receiving it over the air (especially if you're in a poor reception
area). Radio 1 is passable for listening but by far not as crisp as Radio 2
on the web.
Eric.
I'll have to check out that web site. It's kind of cool... you can watch the
cars move realtime (& IE unfortunately re-loads the whole page each time so
it doesn't work... Chimera does it quite nicely... chimera.mozdev.org It's a
bare-bones browser based off the Mozilla display engine. It's fast, it's
simple, quite stable and doesn't have all the *crap* that Netscrape has
incorporated since version 4... & unfortunately for OS 9 users, it's OS
X-only).
With a bit of tweaking Chimera will produce a browser that can realistically
usurp IE 5.1 for OS 9 as the best Mac browser (&, dare I say so, best
browser on *any* platform) (the OS X version of IE 5.2 is a stability
downgrade from OS X IE 5.1.5)... IE 5.1 for OS 9 is the best all-round
browser for the Mac that ever was (sorry Netscape fans... I've compared them
all and it's the all-round winner... it's SMALL, its RAM footprint is *tiny*
compared to *all* versions of Netscape/Mozilla (even with 576 MB of RAM
Netscrape 4.7.9/6.2.3 have caused memory problems), it is *much* more stable
than Netscape 6.2.3/Mozilla (& even more stable than 4.7.9) (though, for
simple web browsing 4.7.9 holds up Ok), its interface is hands down more
refined (command-click to move windows anyone, command-b to show/hide
toolbars, command-~ to cycle through windows... I think that the Mozilla
coders are avoiding command-click to move windows simply because it was a
Micro$oft innovation and they don't want to admit that M$ did something
amazingly right), it has a history that WORKS (in 10 years Netscape failed
to create a functioning history)). PS Opera does a good job of being a
top-notch OS 9 browser too (their OS X version needs some work to bring it
out of beta status) -- small, fast, stable, run circles around
Netscrape/Mozilla for RAM requirements, has all the good stuff of M$ IE,
*and* has very easy turn-on/turn-off/show-loaded of images (especially
useful if you're suffering with dial-up internet access).
(though, IE 5.5 for Winblows is pretty damn good (perhaps the best browser
on any platform) too... on a PI/166 Win 95 it regularly (more often than
not) out-performs *all* the browsers on my G3/450 (I like/demand INSTANT
web-page display, none of this spinning beach ball/spinning cursor crap we
get with Mac OS), in both OS 9 and OS X (why would a slow Pentium running
Win 95 and IE 5.5 perform better than a computer 4x as fast and with 14 x
the amount of RAM (576 vs 40)).
The *one* thing that Chimera needs is command-click to move the window
around... if it gets that it'll become my default browser post-haste (& it's
only at v 0.40... when it gets command-click it'll be ready to be used as a
real web browser).
Eric.
<oops... too much procrastinating and ranting me thinks>
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