[bksvol-discuss] Re: .txt and .rtf

  • From: "Silvara" <silvara@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2004 17:12:44 -0500

Hi Louise:

I have one of your submissions, Bright Captivity and it has page breaks. I will be able to retain these page breaks because I edit in K1000 and it saves page breaks.

There are 2 steps in this process of submitting and validating books where page breaks can be lost. The submitter may be able to save page breaks in txt, but when the validator edits it and the program they use does not save these page breaks, then they're gone. So my solution is for people who can't retain page breaks not to work on txt files. Hopefully bookshare will eventually let us upload txt files as rtf files.

Grace
----- Original Message ----- From: "Louise" <lougou@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 10:37 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: .txt and .rtf



Cindy, regarding the Ivan Doig books, one of the books I've scanned is
Dancing at the Rascal Fair, but I haven't yet scanned the other one in the
trilogy, which, I believe is called Ride with Me Mariah or something to that
effect.


I am still confused about this page break business and am now even reluctant
to validate other people's scans as about half the books I validated
recently were kicked back to be checked for page breaks! I am becoming
frustrated and discouraged about this page break business and I know of a
few friends who are also Bookshare members who say they won't validate any
more books either because of this page break situation.



----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 2:34 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: .txt and .rtf


Louise,

I may be wrong, but I don't think you have to worry.
I've validated txt files and rtf files. The first time
I got dowloaded a txt file I converted it to an rtf
file. I can't remember if the page breaks converted or
if I put them in manually as I did the book, but they
disappeared when I found I had to covert to txt to
upload. After that, when I did txt files, I just
spaced to show the page number, i.e., I made a single
line space before the page number and a double line
space after the page number if the page number was
supposed to be at the bottom of the page and ice versa
if it was at the top (ifI remember correctly). The
only problem is that sometimes Word put in a page
break where there shouldn't be one, but I didn't worry
about that. I think, though, that I solved that
problem but switching to a smaller font when I was
ready to upload.

If you can convert to rtf to submit your books, then
let the validator worry about page breaks if they
don't appear in the conversion. Or submit them as txt
if you can't convert to rtf and let the validator
worry about them. The worst thing that would happen is
that they'd be rejected, but of course you'd still
have yours. And the best thing is that they'll be
accepted and the collection and membership will be
enriched by your efforts. BTW, is any of them the
other two books of the Montana series by Ivan Doig? Am
I correct in remembering that you're the one who read
the book with Mariah Montana in the title and wanted
the other two?

Cindy

Cindy


--- Louise <lougou@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> I have   more than a thousand books that I've
> scanned in txt format, but
> won't be able to submit to Bookshare since txt files
> don't have page breaks.
> I can't see myself going page by page through all of
> these books and
> manually putting in page breaks!!  It's my
> understanding that by going to
> save as in a txt file and then choosing  the rtf
> format   doesn't
> automatically put in the page breaks.  Therefore, I
> don't know of any  quick
> way of putting the page breaks in txt files.
> Besides, I don't see why page breaks are  so
> important in books such as
> romances, mysteries, westerns, etc.  I can see their
> validity in nonfiction
> books such as textbook or reference books!!
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Marissa Mika" <Marissa.M@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 11:37 AM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: .txt and .rtf
>
>
> > Hi Pam,
> >
> > The answer is yes if you can maintain the page
> breaks during your
> > conversion.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Marissa
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Pam Quinn
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 9:32 AM
> > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] .txt and .rtf
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have some books to submit eventually when I get
> them cleaned up,
> > that are in .txt format. Would it be preferable to
> convert them to
> > .rtf before submitting them?
> >
> > Pam
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>




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