[bksvol-discuss] Re: .txt and .rtf
- From: "Louise" <lougou@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2004 10:36:03 -0600
I saw the books I'd validated back on the download page and when I went to
read the comments, they were there to check for the page breaks. I
suggested recently that there should be a separate list for any books
kicked back from the administrator such as page breaks, verifying fair rated
status, etc.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 1:19 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: .txt and .rtf
> Well, if people don't want to validate, they can
> always scan and just make sure all the page numbers
> are present and do a word search to at least eliminate
> most of the mis-spellings and the garbage. I feel a
> lot better about not scanning and just validating
> knowing that there are so many around who like to
> scan. I read the books as I go along, and so it's no
> problem for me to put in page breaks -- and also
> sometimes I find missing pages which I can then scan
> in, since I use the books themselves. When I was
> scanning, I pre-validated and found some pages I'd
> missed, as well as some I'd done twice. I guess I lost
> my concentration, and I don't get to hear what I'm
> doing.
>
> But Marissa says not to worry about submitting txt
> books. Still if you can convert your txt files to rtf
> before submission, that would be preferable because
> then they'd retain italics as well as page breaks.
>
> How did you know that the books you validated were
> kicked back? Were they somehow kicked back to you as
> validator and not to the submitter? I haven't had
> anything returned to me as validator even though I've
> approved some txt files that had the page numbers
> separated from the text by line spaces but Word put in
> page breaks elsewhere.
>
> If you let me know when you submit the Doig books I'll
> validate them if no one else has gotten to them first.
> Unless . . . I can't remember if you're one who
> doesn't mind sending me a book file or one who is
> uncomfortable dong that. If you don't mind, I can
> pre-validate it as an rtf file and send it back to you
> to submit.
>
> Cindy
>
>
>
>
> --- Louise <lougou@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > Cindy, regarding the Ivan Doig books, one of the
> > books I've scanned is
> > Dancing at the Rascal Fair, but I haven't yet
> > scanned the other one in the
> > trilogy, which, I believe is called Ride with Me
> > Mariah or something to that
> > effect.
> >
> > I am still confused about this page break business
> > and am now even reluctant
> > to validate other people's scans as about half the
> > books I validated
> > recently were kicked back to be checked for page
> > breaks! I am becoming
> > frustrated and discouraged about this page break
> > business and I know of a
> > few friends who are also Bookshare members who say
> > they won't validate any
> > more books either because of this page break
> > situation.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 2:34 PM
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: .txt and .rtf
> >
> >
> > > Louise,
> > >
> > > I may be wrong, but I don't think you have to
> > worry.
> > > I've validated txt files and rtf files. The first
> > time
> > > I got dowloaded a txt file I converted it to an
> > rtf
> > > file. I can't remember if the page breaks
> > converted or
> > > if I put them in manually as I did the book, but
> > they
> > > disappeared when I found I had to covert to txt to
> > > upload. After that, when I did txt files, I just
> > > spaced to show the page number, i.e., I made a
> > single
> > > line space before the page number and a double
> > line
> > > space after the page number if the page number was
> > > supposed to be at the bottom of the page and ice
> > versa
> > > if it was at the top (ifI remember correctly). The
> > > only problem is that sometimes Word put in a page
> > > break where there shouldn't be one, but I didn't
> > worry
> > > about that. I think, though, that I solved that
> > > problem but switching to a smaller font when I was
> > > ready to upload.
> > >
> > > If you can convert to rtf to submit your books,
> > then
> > > let the validator worry about page breaks if they
> > > don't appear in the conversion. Or submit them as
> > txt
> > > if you can't convert to rtf and let the validator
> > > worry about them. The worst thing that would
> > happen is
> > > that they'd be rejected, but of course you'd still
> > > have yours. And the best thing is that they'll be
> > > accepted and the collection and membership will be
> > > enriched by your efforts. BTW, is any of them the
> > > other two books of the Montana series by Ivan
> > Doig? Am
> > > I correct in remembering that you're the one who
> > read
> > > the book with Mariah Montana in the title and
> > wanted
> > > the other two?
> > >
> > > Cindy
> > >
> > > Cindy
> > >
> > >
> > > --- Louise <lougou@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I have more than a thousand books that I've
> > > > scanned in txt format, but
> > > > won't be able to submit to Bookshare since txt
> > files
> > > > don't have page breaks.
> > > > I can't see myself going page by page through
> > all of
> > > > these books and
> > > > manually putting in page breaks!! It's my
> > > > understanding that by going to
> > > > save as in a txt file and then choosing the rtf
> > > > format doesn't
> > > > automatically put in the page breaks.
> > Therefore, I
> > > > don't know of any quick
> > > > way of putting the page breaks in txt files.
> > > > Besides, I don't see why page breaks are so
> > > > important in books such as
> > > > romances, mysteries, westerns, etc. I can see
> > their
> > > > validity in nonfiction
> > > > books such as textbook or reference books!!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Marissa Mika" <Marissa.M@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 11:37 AM
> > > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: .txt and .rtf
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Pam,
> > > > >
> > > > > The answer is yes if you can maintain the page
> > > > breaks during your
> > > > > conversion.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Marissa
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > On
> > > > Behalf Of Pam Quinn
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 9:32 AM
> > > > > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] .txt and .rtf
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > I have some books to submit eventually when I
> > get
> > > > them cleaned up,
> > > > > that are in .txt format. Would it be
> > preferable to
> > > > convert them to
> > > > > .rtf before submitting them?
> > > > >
> > > > > Pam
> > > > >
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