Hi, Charlie. I'm just curious. I personally always use the .brf files, so I think they're great, but why would you submit both formats? Was it to eliminate the possibility of translation errors? At least in the books I've read, there are minor errors, like maybe some words that are separated by spaces when standard braille would have them connected, but other than that, I haven't seen any major errors, and at least for me, the spacing isn't really a problem. Take care. Julie Morales Email and Windows/MSN Messenger: inlovewithchrist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx When God puts a tear in your eye, it is because He wants to put a rainbow in your heart. ----- Original Message ----- From: Charles Wadman To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2004 7:31 AM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: BRF Dave, I have submitted some Bernard Cornwell books - very probably the ones you are referring to. I scanned them into a RTF file, then used software called EDIT-PC to translate the RTF into braille. I then corrected and formatted the braille (I'm a certified braille transcriber) and submitted the book in RTF and BRF formats. I included a note in the uploads to indicate that the book was being submitted in both formats. I can't contribute to this discussion on the utility of these formats, but maybe this will add a little clarity to how they got there. Regards, Charlie At 08:41 AM 12/15/2004 -0500, you wrote: Regarding the BRF files, I was explaining the rational, or thought behind why the format was included initially as an option, not on its implementation or use since startup. It seems that when you provide people with options, no matter how you perceive they're uses, they will always surprise you and use them differently. While on the subject of surprise, I went back and checked the Bernard Cornwell books that I remembered validating that came in as 2 formats (RTF & BRF), and found you're right, the BRF copies are only downloadable as BRF files. Perhaps I got into some of Guido's 'shrooms' or maybe I'm just hallucinating from some other stimulant or depressant, but I would have sworn that the last time I checked it out there were Daisy files available from the BRF books as well. Dave