[AR] Re: airbreathing engines (was Re: Re: to the stars, soon)
- From: Henry Spencer <hspencer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: Arocket List <arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2016 13:13:40 -0400 (EDT)
On Tue, 5 Apr 2016, Peter Fairbrother wrote:
...Adding momentum to air that is already flowing past you at high
speed is very costly in energy. ... A quick bit of algebra suggests
that airbreathing Isp should be roughly inversely proportional to
flight speed,
inversely proportional to the *square* of flight speed?
jet must accelerate x lb of air by y ft/s to produce thrust z. assuming
flight speed >> y, energy required to do so depends ~ on square of relative
speed of air.
or did I miss something?
Alas, you did. There are two components to the energy requirement. One
is proportional to y^2; the other to v*y, where v is flight speed. (And
if v >> y, the second component dominates.) You're not accelerating the
air from 0 to y, but from v to v+y:
E = 0.5*x*(v+y)^2 - 0.5*x*v^2
= 0.5*x*(v^2 + 2*v*y + y^2 - v^2)
= 0.5*x*(2*v*y + y^2)
Actually, for systems that accelerate the air by burning onboard fuel in
it, there is a v^2 component as well, because the mass of the fuel has to
be accelerated from 0 to v+y. However, the mass flow involved is much
smaller -- especially if the fuel is hydrogen -- and for feasible
airbreather speeds, the v*y component tends to dominate.
Henry
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