[AR] Re: Bipropellant solid
- From: "Monroe L. King Jr." <monroe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 08:04:22 -0700
Well if that is not novel then I don't see how it could be patented.
Agree
I would also agree that your patent is the direct prior art to reference
in that case.
I wonder why these patents are so specific about the propellants used
rather than the process. My guess is there is even farther back prior
art on the solid solid design.
You would know that better than anyone I imagine.
Monroe
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: [AR] Re: Bipropellant solid
> From: "Anthony Cesaroni" <acesaroni@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Mon, October 27, 2014 7:46 am
> To: <arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
>
> The orifice is not novel either. Both fixed and variable designs have been
> demonstrated previously.
>
> Anthony J. Cesaroni
> President/CEO
> Cesaroni Technology/Cesaroni Aerospace
> http://www.cesaronitech.com/
> (941) 360-3100 x101 Sarasota
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: arocket-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:arocket-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Monroe L. King Jr.
> Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 10:25 AM
> To: arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [AR] Re: Bipropellant solid
>
> Wow interesting! I'd say so far looking at these patents the orifice (between
> the fuel and oxidizer) is indeed still novel enough to warrant the patent.
>
> Weather or not the orifice is needed and actually makes his system better
> remains to be seen I suppose.
>
> Good food for thought thanks for posting.
>
> Monroe
>
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject: [AR] Re: Bipropellant solid
> > From: "Anthony Cesaroni" <acesaroni@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Date: Mon, October 27, 2014 6:54 am
> > To: <arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >
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> > It's an "all solid, reverse hybrid". As far as I can tell, there is only
> > one independent claim and the document is at the published application
> > phase. I'm not sure if the examiner will allow the independent claim as
> > there are a number of published examples of prior art reduced to practice
> > and disclosed.
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> > Anthony J. Cesaroni
> >
> > President/CEO
> >
> > Cesaroni Technology/Cesaroni Aerospace
> >
> > http://www.cesaronitech.com/
> >
> > (941) 360-3100 x101 Sarasota
> >
> > (905) 887-2370 x222 Toronto
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> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: arocket-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:arocket-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Stephen Burns
> > Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 1:24 AM
> > To: arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [AR] Re: Bipropellant solid
> >
> >
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> > -----Original Message-----
> >
> > From: <mailto:arocket-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > arocket-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [ <mailto:arocket-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > mailto:arocket-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ben Brockert
> >
> > Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 11:13 AM
> >
> > To: <mailto:arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > Subject: [AR] Re: Bipropellant solid
> >
> >
> >
> > >Good finds on the patent application. Based on the correlation
> > >between
> >
> > >the length of a chemical's name and its price on Sigma Aldrich, I
> >
> > >wonder how much that little model rocket cost in propellant. Another
> > >patent says that all you have to do is oxidize 3-amino-1,2,4-triazole to
> > >form 3,3'-azo-1,2,4-triazole, nitrate that, and viola,
> > >5,5'-dinitro-3,3'azo-1,2,4-triazole.
> >
> >
> >
> > >That is one of the most impressive patent claims I've seen in years.
> >
> > >If they actually own the entire field of solid bipropellant rockets that
> > >will be quite a feat.
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> >
> > There is some prior art in the field. US 3429265 A from 1960 for example.
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> > Also CA 2367192 A1 from 2002 by inventors Anthony J. Cesaroni, Michael
> > J. Dennett, Jeroen Louwers
> >
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> > There seems to be a distinct lack of reference to Prior Art in modern
> > patents. Have they dropped that criteria so I can patent the wheel now?
> >
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Burnsie.
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