Fran, I thought I remembered you started using an Optacon in 1st grade... Unfortunately, we in Lombardy weren't so lucky. Our region didn't do anything about the Optacon. I also had my first Optacon in 1977, and my grand-mother paid for it with all her savings... It cost three million lie at the time, but in the following years, with the lira-dollar exchange rate going crazy, it came to something like twelve millions (I wrote these numbers in letters to make them stand out more). I was already an adult when I had my first Optacon, but I took to it immediately, and hadreached33 words per minute after one week. I hope my two optacons never die on me. I have an old R1D, which was given to me by IBM when I left, and an Optacon II, which was a Christmas present from my husband. I much prefer the R1D as far as resolution goes, but I had to remove the battery, so it's not very handy to carry around when I need to use it without connecting it to the mains. Btw, I totally agree with David about what the possible New Optacon should be: an Optacon, without interpreting software. But there was discussion about a possible molular device, with separate modules providing audio or braille. In this case, I think, the open software side of the project would come in. I wouldn't be interested in such features, that's for sure... Ciao, Ollie Il 04/11/2012 22.27, Fran ha scritto: > Hi Ollie, > I totally agree with you. I think the sighted are generally more impressed > by the optacon than many blind people are. I see how amazed and fascinated > the sighted get when I show them the optacon, or simply by hearing about it. > > Oh forget Italian politicians! LOL Well actually, I don't know who was > responsible for bringing the optacon to Italy in the 70s, but they did an > excellent job here! I was introduced to the optacon in 1977 when I started > 1st grade, and I'd guess all Italian blind kids were exposed to it in those > years. I don't know if other countries enjoyed this privilege. > > Ciao ciao! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mallard" <mallard@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2012 10:19 PM > Subject: [optacon-l] Re: Optacon Podcasts > > >> Yes, Fran, I agree. >> Maybe one of our problems is that we keep thinking only in terms of the >> blind and visually impaired community, while I think we should aim at >> communicating a lot more with the sighted world. >> >> The "authorities" David mentioned in his message threw a number of >> precious Optacons into the trash bin, because they dind't probably >> understand their value to a blind person. >> >> Using an Optacon means allowing a blind person to fulfill tasks that >> they couldn't cary out otherwise. This means being able to get better >> jobs, earning higher salaries, paying higher taxes, and not being a >> burden on the community. >> >> If our authorities could be made to understand this (I'm pretty hopeless >> as regards Italian politicians, by the way...), we would aready have >> gone quite a long way. >> >> Badly expressed, probably, but hopefully clear enough... >> Ciao, >> Ollie >> >> Il 04/11/2012 21.30, Fran ha scritto: >>> Catherine, I don't agree. I think videos might have a tremendous impact, >>> especially on parents or teachers of blind kids. Then of course, the >>> fact a >>> blind person cannot see a video doesn't mean the video wouldn't work for >>> them either. >>> >>> Fran >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Catherine Thomas" <braille@xxxxxxxxx> >>> To: <optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2012 9:05 PM >>> Subject: [optacon-l] Optacon Podcasts >>> >>> >>>> There have been a couple of podcasts made to do with the Optacon. Our >>>> own >>>> Mary Emerson is featured in one of these. For totally blind users, >>>> videos >>>> wouldn't have much appeal. For those with some sight, the Optacon >>>> doesn't >>>> have much appeal. >>>> >>>> For those interested in the podcasts, I'm sure Mary can turn them up. I >>>> have a copy of the tape that was made someplace. >>>> Catherine >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> -Catherine Thomas >>>> braille@xxxxxxxxx / >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> to view the list archives, go to: >>>> >>>> www.freelists.org/archives/optacon-l >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe at any time, just send a message to: >>>> >>>> optacon-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" (without the >>>> quotes) in the message subject. >>>> >>>> Tell your friends about the list. 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