Thanks for the advice guys. I've used imaginet for some years, but it's gone thru several incarnations and is now uniserve. it was good until about a month ago then they began have breakdowns with London alone and no explanation. Go figure. ISP based in Vancouver, maybe that's the problem. Have friends who use execulink with no complaints. Debated sympatico but hear both good and bad about it. thnx again. jim Users can subscribe to the List by sending an email to <muglo-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> with 'subscribe' in the Subject field Users can unsubscribe from the List by sending an email to <muglo-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field Users must send messages or replies to <muglo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> All messages are archived so that you can view them at any time by going to <//www.freelists.org/archives/muglo> Problems concerning use of the FreeList should be sent to <paulthomas@xxxxxxx> Don't forget to periodically check our web site at: http://muglo.on.ca/