[bksvol-discuss] Re: Page Breaks in TXT files
- From: "Kellie Hartmann" <kellhart@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 16:54:44 -0600
Sue,
Keep in mind that Word will eat the page breaks from your text file, even if
they are there to begin with. So I don't recommend validating Bookshare txt
files with Word.
Kellie
----- Original Message -----
From: "siss52" <siss52@xxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 4:34 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Page Breaks in TXT files
>
> Thanks Shannon. Do you happen to have the word symbols like p for
> paragraph, etc.? When I see the beginning of a word file, I don't know
what
> is junk and what I should leave alone. What you have said about text
helped
> a lot. I think I will try one and if it works I will probably want to do
> all files in word. Thanks a lot!
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "shannon" <shannon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 4:17 PM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Page Breaks in TXT files
>
>
> Sue,
> When you say that you aren't aloud to open a text file in word do you mean
> that you are in word when you try to open it or not. If you are in word
and
> go to open and tab till you hear files of type and tell it to look at all
> file types and then back tab to the list of files in the directory you
> should be able to find and open the txt files. Once word has the file
open
> then you can save in RTF.
> There is also a way to change the file type associations and tell your
> computer to open all txt files using word. If you are meaning this sort of
> issue. I could find those instructions and forward them to you.
>
> Shannon
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "siss52" <siss52@xxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 3:16 PM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Page Breaks in TXT files
>
>
> >
> > MMy programs/computer won't allow me to read a text file with MS
> word--it's
> > either wordpad or nothing, take my choice. <smile> Nor woould my
> programs
> > (or it may be bookshare) allow me to convert a text file into RTF. It
> will
> > not accept. <<picky, huh> smile
> >
> > Sue
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Noel Romey" <ner@xxxxxxxx>
> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 2:20 PM
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Page Breaks in TXT files
> >
> >
> > When you open the thing up in word, you'll hear page break noted
whenever
> > you see a break, If you look at the thing in word, you'll notice a
> control
> > l (dot eight with an l) at least that's how the braille lite does it
when
> > you're looking at all control chars. I'm not sure how Jaws would do it
> > using a braille display, sorry.
> >
> > Ner
> > At 02:12 PM 12/14/2004, you wrote:
> >
> > >Maybe whoever can answer about how those squares are interpreted on a
> > speech
> > >synthesizer can tell me how they would look on a Braille display so I
> will
> > >know what to look for. Thanks.
> > >
> > >Sue
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Marissa Mika" <Marissa.M@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 1:46 PM
> > >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Page Breaks in TXT files
> > >
> > >
> > >Hi Cindy,
> > >
> > >In answer to your question, you should be able to tell if a txt file
has
> > >page breaks by a little symbol that looks like a square. DON'T DELETE
> > >THE SQUARES. Or you won't have page breaks. I have no idea how they
> > >sound in screen readers. They should be in the txt files you download
> > >anyway. If they're not, then we can work with the scanner of the book
to
> > >save the file properly.
> > >
> > >In the file that I tested, Word put page breaks where there should have
> > >been page breaks, according to the txt file. I first opened the txt
file
> > >in Word, and then saved it as an rtf file without a glitch.
> > >
> > >If people have other experiences or suggestions for how to test this
> > >Word error, let me know.
> > >
> > >Does that help?
> > >Marissa
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Cindy
> > >Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 10:46 AM
> > >To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Paring the Download Validation list
> > >
> > >Having finally finished the book I was validating, I
> > >went to the download list to see what I might want to
> > >do next (though I'm waiting to see what books from the
> > >Fair list Marissa will send me). Those romance books
> > >that people have been complaining about and that I was
> > >willing to try to fix, if I could obtain the books,
> > >are all in txt. Until the hard page break question is
> > >answered, i.e., do we need them or is spacing between
> > >the page numbers and text o.k. -- but then what about
> > >the breaks that Word puts in where they don't belong?
> > >-- I don't want to tackle them. If they are bad, why
> > >don't we just reject them? People who want to read the
> > >books can scan them and submit them as rtf, and more
> > >of us can then validate them. And that would decrease
> > >the number of books on the list considerably, it seems
> > >to me, just from quickly eyeing how many there were,
> > >not just txt in general but those.
> > >
> > >Cindy
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> >
> > Noel Romey
> > Arkansas, USA
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