[bksvol-discuss] Re: Help me with The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich
- From: "Jackie McBride" <abletec@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 17:20:14 -0700
Kenneth, I'm not a member of bookshare &, w/the quarter per hour or
less projects I've been engaged in lately, it'll probably be awhile so
I can't comment on the efecacy of my suggestion. However, have u
tried daisy readers like TPB or Amos as regards their page number
handling capabilities? Since they're freeware, couldn't hurt to give
'em a spin--u can always nuke 'em if u don't like 'em.
On 1/20/08, Guido Corona <guidoc@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Should be no problem. As far as I know, all source files should still be
> in the system. Pratik, if you send a note to Claire, she can probably
> find it for you.
>
> G.
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>
> Guido Dante Corona
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> questioned the most were in the end those who came closest to being wise."
> [David Poyer, The Command]
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> Carrie Karnos <ckarnos@xxxxxxxxx>
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> I have the original TIF and RTF files, so I'll send them to Pratik.
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> Carrie
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> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Bob <rwiley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 11:42:45 AM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help me with The Rise and Fall of the Third
> Reich
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> Unfortunately, I no longer have the original document. It's a big book and
> I
> have limitted disk space.
>
> Sorry.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Pratik Patel" <pratikp1@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 12:43 PM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help me with The Rise and Fall of the Third
> Reich
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> > Ok. Whoever validated the Rise and Fall, would you please e-mail me
> > pages,
> > Roman numeral 10, 11, and 12? If you kept the book that you validated,
> > this
> > should be an easy task. I'd like to compare the input with the
> resulting
> > text. I believe I know what's happening but would like to confirm. If
>
> > you
> > don't have the text available, please let me know and I'll contact
> Claire.
> > I'll write a separate message regarding what happens with Kes and
> Braille.
> > There have been more than 60 messages on this topic in the last few days
>
> > and
> > it might just confuse a lot of people. If you have the pages, you can
> > send
> > them to me at pratikp1@xxxxxxxxxx There is no reason for the list to
> get
> > involved until I can check this out.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> >
> > Pratik
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Judy s.
> > Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 1:19 PM
> > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help me with The Rise and Fall of the
> Third
> > Reich
> >
> > I've seen it often, where chapters end in the middle of the page, and a
> > new
> > chapter starts on the same page right below the previous chapter's
> ending,
> > but I
> > can't recall ever seeing a table of contents ending and chapter 1
> > beginning
> > on
> > the same page.
> >
> > Judy s.
> > cherryjam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > Kenneth Cross wrote:
> >> Just how many books have you validated where a chapter actually began
> on
> >> the same page where the book's Contents ended; i.e., Contents ends,
> >> Chapter 1 is indicated, and part of Chapter 1 begins on that same page?
> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Grandma Cindy"
> > <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 6:35 PM
> >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help me with The Rise and Fall of the
> >> Third Reich
> >>
> >>
> >>> In many print books, such as the book I'm validating
> >>> now, chapters do begin in the middle of the page,
> >>> though I don't see any logical reason for it. I also
> >>> don't see a reason why chapters have to begin on an
> >>> odd-numbered, or right-hand (facing the reader) page,
> >>> requiring a blank page preceding it. This is as
> >>> annoying to the sighted reader as it probably is to a
> >>> blind reader--and a waste of paper.
> >>>
> >>> G.Cindy
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> - Chapters will begin on the same page with
> >>>> the Contents of the book, and most chapters begin in
> >>>> the middle of a page. One would think that there
> >>>> was a better way.
> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob
> >>>> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 2:50 PM
> >>>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help me with The
> >>>> Rise and Fall of the Third Reich
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Okay, this is pretty strange.
> >>>>
> >>>> As I said in a previous message I was using
> >>>> k1000v10. Others with other software or other
> >>>> versions of Kurzweil may find different results.
> >>>>
> >>>> I downloaded the daisy copy of "the rise and fall
> >>>> of the third Reich" and opened it in Kurzweil.
> >>>>
> >>>> There are random page numbers that do show in the
> >>>> book, page VII for example. However, most are
> >>>> missing. But, Kurzweil is true to the book if you
> >>>> make allowances for the extra page that bookshare
> >>>> adds in on page two. For example, page 1524 in the
> >>>> book was reported on page 1525. So, to find out what
> >>>> page you are on press shift f1 in the book and
> >>>> mentally add the number 1 to whatever k1000 reports
> >>>> you are on.
> >>>>
> >>>> I checked out header avoidance in the reading
> >>>> settings, making sure that header avoidance was
> >>>> enabled. According to the manual, this should report
> >>>> page headings, but it doesn't.
> >>>>
> >>>> I swear the page numbers were there when the book
> >>>> was submitted to the bookshare administration. I can
> >>>> only conclude that the stripper took them out, or
> >>>> Kurzweil isn't reporting them.
> >>>>
> >>>> I am going to save the book in .txt format, open
> >>>> it with a good old text editor and see if page
> >>>> numbers and, I hope, page breaks are there. But,
> >>>> don't hold your breath. I'll report it if there is
> >>>> any difference.
> >>>>
> >>>> Bob
> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: Kenneth Cross
> >>>> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 12:35 PM
> >>>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help me with The
> >>>> Rise and Fall of the Third Reich
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Will the daisy tags indicate the actual page
> >>>> number or will those tags reflect the number of
> >>>> pages, including introductory pages? Any way, I
> >>>> will try that right now.
> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: Kellie Hartmann
> >>>> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 12:51 PM
> >>>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help me with The
> >>>> Rise and Fall of the Third Reich
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> If you get the Daisy version, you can see the
> >>>> page numbers in the Daisy tags using the Bookmark
> >>>> list commands. Otherwise, you can use a notetaker or
> >>>> bookport or book courrier if you have one, or, if
> >>>> you need to, you can use Internet Explorer to read
> >>>> the html version included with the Daisy version.
> >>>> Use the Jaws placemarker commands to make bookmarks
> >>>> or save your place, or convert the file back to txt
> >>>> with Explorer and put it back in Kurzweil.
> >>>> Kellie
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >
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