I have the original TIF and RTF files, so I'll send them to Pratik. Carrie ----- Original Message ---- From: Bob <rwiley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 11:42:45 AM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help me with The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich Unfortunately, I no longer have the original document. It's a big book and I have limitted disk space. Sorry. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pratik Patel" <pratikp1@xxxxxxxxx> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 12:43 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help me with The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich > Ok. Whoever validated the Rise and Fall, would you please e-mail me > pages, > Roman numeral 10, 11, and 12? If you kept the book that you validated, > this > should be an easy task. I'd like to compare the input with the resulting > text. I believe I know what's happening but would like to confirm. If > you > don't have the text available, please let me know and I'll contact Claire. > I'll write a separate message regarding what happens with Kes and Braille. > There have been more than 60 messages on this topic in the last few days > and > it might just confuse a lot of people. If you have the pages, you can > send > them to me at pratikp1@xxxxxxxxxx There is no reason for the list to get > involved until I can check this out. > > Regards, > > > Pratik > > > -----Original Message----- > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Judy s. > Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 1:19 PM > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help me with The Rise and Fall of the Third > Reich > > I've seen it often, where chapters end in the middle of the page, and a > new > chapter starts on the same page right below the previous chapter's ending, > but I > can't recall ever seeing a table of contents ending and chapter 1 > beginning > on > the same page. > > Judy s. > cherryjam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Kenneth Cross wrote: >> Just how many books have you validated where a chapter actually began on >> the same page where the book's Contents ended; i.e., Contents ends, >> Chapter 1 is indicated, and part of Chapter 1 begins on that same page? >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Grandma Cindy" > <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx> >> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 6:35 PM >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help me with The Rise and Fall of the >> Third Reich >> >> >>> In many print books, such as the book I'm validating >>> now, chapters do begin in the middle of the page, >>> though I don't see any logical reason for it. I also >>> don't see a reason why chapters have to begin on an >>> odd-numbered, or right-hand (facing the reader) page, >>> requiring a blank page preceding it. This is as >>> annoying to the sighted reader as it probably is to a >>> blind reader--and a waste of paper. >>> >>> G.Cindy >>> >>> >>> - Chapters will begin on the same page with >>>> the Contents of the book, and most chapters begin in >>>> the middle of a page. One would think that there >>>> was a better way. >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob >>>> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 2:50 PM >>>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help me with The >>>> Rise and Fall of the Third Reich >>>> >>>> >>>> Okay, this is pretty strange. >>>> >>>> As I said in a previous message I was using >>>> k1000v10. Others with other software or other >>>> versions of Kurzweil may find different results. >>>> >>>> I downloaded the daisy copy of "the rise and fall >>>> of the third Reich" and opened it in Kurzweil. >>>> >>>> There are random page numbers that do show in the >>>> book, page VII for example. However, most are >>>> missing. But, Kurzweil is true to the book if you >>>> make allowances for the extra page that bookshare >>>> adds in on page two. For example, page 1524 in the >>>> book was reported on page 1525. So, to find out what >>>> page you are on press shift f1 in the book and >>>> mentally add the number 1 to whatever k1000 reports >>>> you are on. >>>> >>>> I checked out header avoidance in the reading >>>> settings, making sure that header avoidance was >>>> enabled. According to the manual, this should report >>>> page headings, but it doesn't. >>>> >>>> I swear the page numbers were there when the book >>>> was submitted to the bookshare administration. I can >>>> only conclude that the stripper took them out, or >>>> Kurzweil isn't reporting them. >>>> >>>> I am going to save the book in .txt format, open >>>> it with a good old text editor and see if page >>>> numbers and, I hope, page breaks are there. But, >>>> don't hold your breath. I'll report it if there is >>>> any difference. >>>> >>>> Bob >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: Kenneth Cross >>>> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 12:35 PM >>>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help me with The >>>> Rise and Fall of the Third Reich >>>> >>>> >>>> Will the daisy tags indicate the actual page >>>> number or will those tags reflect the number of >>>> pages, including introductory pages? Any way, I >>>> will try that right now. >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: Kellie Hartmann >>>> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 12:51 PM >>>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help me with The >>>> Rise and Fall of the Third Reich >>>> >>>> >>>> If you get the Daisy version, you can see the >>>> page numbers in the Daisy tags using the Bookmark >>>> list commands. Otherwise, you can use a notetaker or >>>> bookport or book courrier if you have one, or, if >>>> you need to, you can use Internet Explorer to read >>>> the html version included with the Daisy version. >>>> Use the Jaws placemarker commands to make bookmarks >>>> or save your place, or convert the file back to txt >>>> with Explorer and put it back in Kurzweil. >>>> Kellie >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>>> Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.7/1232 >>>> - Release Date: 1/18/2008 7:32 PM >>>> >>> >>> >>> WISH LIST (called Requested Additions To The Bookshare Collection)is >>> available at >>> http://people.delphiforums.com/jamiecalton/Book_Requests.htm >>> http://www.friendsofbookshare.org/ >>> http://studentpages.alma.edu/~07jmyate/book_requests.htm >>> >>> www.jbrownell.com for miscellaneous and useful threads >>> >>> >>> >>> > ____________________________________________________________________________ > ________ >>> >>> Looking for last minute shopping deals? >>> Find them fast with Yahoo! 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