[bksvol-discuss] Re: Help me with The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich

  • From: Carrie Karnos <ckarnos@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 11:59:34 -0800 (PST)

I have the original TIF and RTF files, so I'll send them to Pratik.

Carrie

----- Original Message ----
From: Bob <rwiley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 11:42:45 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help me with The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich


Unfortunately, I no longer have the original document. It's a big book
 and I 
have limitted disk space.

Sorry.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pratik Patel" <pratikp1@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 12:43 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help me with The Rise and Fall of the
 Third 
Reich


> Ok.  Whoever validated the Rise and Fall, would you please e-mail me 
> pages,
> Roman numeral 10, 11, and 12?  If you kept the book that you
 validated, 
> this
> should be an easy task.  I'd like to compare the input with the
 resulting
> text.  I believe I know what's happening but would like to confirm.
  If 
> you
> don't have the text available, please let me know and I'll contact
 Claire.
> I'll write a separate message regarding what happens with Kes and
 Braille.
> There have been more than 60 messages on this topic in the last few
 days 
> and
> it might just confuse a lot of people.  If you have the pages, you
 can 
> send
> them to me at pratikp1@xxxxxxxxxx  There is no reason for the list to
 get
> involved until I can check this out.
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Pratik
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Judy s.
> Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 1:19 PM
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help me with The Rise and Fall of the
 Third
> Reich
>
> I've seen it often, where chapters end in the middle of the page, and
 a 
> new
> chapter starts on the same page right below the previous chapter's
 ending,
> but I
> can't recall ever seeing a table of contents ending and chapter 1 
> beginning
> on
> the same page.
>
> Judy s.
> cherryjam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> Kenneth Cross wrote:
>> Just how many books have you validated where a chapter actually
 began on
>> the same page where the book's Contents ended; i.e., Contents ends,
>> Chapter 1 is indicated, and part of Chapter 1 begins on that same
 page?
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Grandma Cindy"
> <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 6:35 PM
>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help me with The Rise and Fall of the
>> Third Reich
>>
>>
>>> In many print books, such as the book I'm validating
>>> now, chapters do begin in the middle of the page,
>>> though I don't see any logical reason for it. I also
>>> don't see a reason why chapters have to begin on an
>>> odd-numbered, or right-hand (facing the reader) page,
>>> requiring a blank page preceding it. This is as
>>> annoying to the sighted reader as it probably is to a
>>> blind reader--and a waste of paper.
>>>
>>> G.Cindy
>>>
>>>
>>> - Chapters will begin on the same page with
>>>> the Contents of the book, and most chapters begin in
>>>> the middle of a page.  One would think that there
>>>> was a better way.
>>>>   ----- Original Message -----   From: Bob
>>>>   To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>   Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 2:50 PM
>>>>   Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help me with The
>>>> Rise and Fall of the Third Reich
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   Okay, this is pretty strange.
>>>>
>>>>   As I said in a previous message I was using
>>>> k1000v10. Others with other software or other
>>>> versions of Kurzweil may find different results.
>>>>
>>>>   I downloaded the daisy copy of "the rise and fall
>>>> of the third Reich" and opened it in Kurzweil.
>>>>
>>>>   There are random page numbers that do show in the
>>>> book, page VII for example. However, most are
>>>> missing. But, Kurzweil is true to the book if you
>>>> make allowances for the extra page that bookshare
>>>> adds in on page two. For example, page 1524 in the
>>>> book was reported on page 1525. So, to find out what
>>>> page you are on press shift f1 in the book and
>>>> mentally add the number 1 to whatever k1000 reports
>>>> you are on.
>>>>
>>>>   I checked out header avoidance in the reading
>>>> settings, making sure that header avoidance was
>>>> enabled. According to the manual, this should report
>>>> page headings, but it doesn't.
>>>>
>>>>   I swear the page numbers were there when the book
>>>> was submitted to the bookshare administration. I can
>>>> only conclude that the stripper took them out, or
>>>> Kurzweil isn't reporting them.
>>>>
>>>>   I am going to save the book in .txt format, open
>>>> it with a good old text editor and see if page
>>>> numbers and, I hope, page breaks are there. But,
>>>> don't hold your breath. I'll report it if there is
>>>> any difference.
>>>>
>>>>   Bob
>>>>     ----- Original Message -----     From: Kenneth Cross
>>>>     To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>     Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 12:35 PM
>>>>     Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help me with The
>>>> Rise and Fall of the Third Reich
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     Will the daisy tags indicate the actual page
>>>> number or will those tags reflect the number of
>>>> pages, including introductory pages?  Any way, I
>>>> will try that right now.
>>>>       ----- Original Message -----       From: Kellie Hartmann
>>>>       To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>       Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 12:51 PM
>>>>       Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help me with The
>>>> Rise and Fall of the Third Reich
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>       If you get the Daisy version, you can see the
>>>> page numbers in the Daisy tags using the Bookmark
>>>> list commands. Otherwise, you can use a notetaker or
>>>> bookport or book courrier if you have one, or, if
>>>> you need to, you can use Internet Explorer to read
>>>> the html version included with the Daisy version.
>>>> Use the Jaws placemarker commands to make bookmarks
>>>> or save your place, or convert the file back to txt
>>>> with Explorer and put it back in Kurzweil.
>>>>       Kellie
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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