[bksvol-discuss] Re: blank pages before next chapter
- From: Carrie Karnos <ckarnos@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 11:58:02 -0800 (PST)
Hi Cindy,
Our current version of Rise and Fall is excellent (and all the blank pages are
numbered). As Evan said, it's a Kurzweil issue, not a Bookshare one.
HTH, Carrie
----- Original Message ----
From: Grandma Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 11:51:30 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] blank pages before next chapter
It occurs to me that it is possible that bookshare
deletes them, in which case the page numbers would be
thrown off completely. I put page numbers on the blank
pages, though, to keep the sequence, and in that case
they shouldn' be deleted because, as someone once
pointed out here, they wouldn't be blank.
I can get Rise & Fall from the library if you want,
Kenneth. What edition would you like?
G.Cindy
--- Bob <rwiley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I'm not sure of course, but I suspect that bookshare
> strips them, and the ones it misses Kurzweil doesn't
> read them.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: EVAN REESE
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 1:40 PM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help me with The
> Rise and Fall of the Third Reich
>
>
> From what I have read here, and observed with brf
> files at least, it appears to be a Kurzweil issue,
> not a Bookshare issue.
>
> Evan
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mike and Lori Castner
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 11:20 AM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help me with The
> Rise and Fall of the Third Reich
>
>
> Hello Dr. Cross. I believe you need to contact
> the administration of bookshare concerning this
> problem. They need to know that page numbers are
> important in just about any book and they need to
> know what you had to go through in order to find the
> right page number. They may need to talk with
> places like the printing house in Louisville and
> National Braille Press where braille books are
> routinely produced that let you know both braille
> and print pages. It may be that they need to make
> specific recommendations to users about how to
> assure accurate results from bookshare books. Is it
> possible to read a daisy or BRF file in Kurtzweil,
> Etc.
>
> I believe that you have the necessary presteige
> and background to make the administration aware of
> this pressing problem. Please pardon my two cents
> in this matter.
> Mike
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Kenneth Cross
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 3:18 PM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help me with The
> Rise and Fall of the Third Reich
>
>
> Well, we have been doing some of the same
> things. I also found the one page variation, but
> why should one have to work so hard to get adequate
> information. When I opened the book in FS Reader,
> the pagination was correct. The page numbers were
> also there when I looked at the html copy. But when
> I used the brf copy with Kurzweil no page numbers
> appeared and the length of the book was about 66
> pages longer. What is strange about the brf
> material is that there is no cognizance of page
> changes. Chapters will begin on the same page with
> the Contents of the book, and most chapters begin in
> the middle of a page. One would think that there
> was a better way.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bob
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 2:50 PM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help me with
> The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich
>
>
> Okay, this is pretty strange.
>
> As I said in a previous message I was using
> k1000v10. Others with other software or other
> versions of Kurzweil may find different results.
>
> I downloaded the daisy copy of "the rise and
> fall of the third Reich" and opened it in Kurzweil.
>
> There are random page numbers that do show
> in the book, page VII for example. However, most are
> missing. But, Kurzweil is true to the book if you
> make allowances for the extra page that bookshare
> adds in on page two. For example, page 1524 in the
> book was reported on page 1525. So, to find out what
> page you are on press shift f1 in the book and
> mentally add the number 1 to whatever k1000 reports
> you are on.
>
> I checked out header avoidance in the
> reading settings, making sure that header avoidance
> was enabled. According to the manual, this should
> report page headings, but it doesn't.
>
> I swear the page numbers were there when the
> book was submitted to the bookshare administration.
> I can only conclude that the stripper took them out,
> or Kurzweil isn't reporting them.
>
> I am going to save the book in .txt format,
> open it with a good old text editor and see if page
> numbers and, I hope, page breaks are there. But,
> don't hold your breath. I'll report it if there is
> any difference.
>
> Bob
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Kenneth Cross
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 12:35 PM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help me with
> The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich
>
>
> Will the daisy tags indicate the actual
> page number or will those tags reflect the number of
> pages, including introductory pages? Any way, I
> will try that right now.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Kellie Hartmann
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 12:51
> PM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help me
> with The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich
>
>
> If you get the Daisy version, you can
> see the page numbers in the Daisy tags using the
> Bookmark list commands. Otherwise, you can use a
> notetaker or bookport or book courrier if you have
> one, or, if you need to, you can use Internet
> Explorer to read the html version included with the
> Daisy version. Use the Jaws placemarker commands to
> make bookmarks or save your place, or convert the
> file back to txt with Explorer and put it back in
> Kurzweil.
> Kellie
>
>
>
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http://www.friendsofbookshare.org/
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