[bksvol-discuss] Re: Help me with The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich
- From: Guido Corona <guidoc@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 17:58:25 -0600
If the Bookshare header processor had detected all page numbers, you
would not have found any page numbers at all, because they would have been
all moved into the XML markup tags, rather than remaining exposed in the
bodytext. It is then a function of the DAISY reading software to announce
page number appropriately using prev/next/goto page commands and
where-am-I commands. A save-as command from the DAISY reader to a TEXT
file should restore than page numbers to be bodytext.
It takes at least two to tango, but it seems that both electronic dancers
may be taking a few little missteps.
By the way, it looks like the LevelStar ICON and by extension the APH
Braille Plus manage bookshare page numbers correctly, including
preliminary pages coded with roman numerals.
G.
Guido Dante Corona
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I checked out the .txt file and didn't find page numbers except in a
haphazard manner.
I'm going to get back to validating as I'm getting very frustrated.
Bookshare pays me to validate a book not to troubleshoot their software.
Bob
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 1:50 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help me with The Rise and Fall of the Third
Reich
Okay, this is pretty strange.
As I said in a previous message I was using k1000v10. Others with other
software or other versions of Kurzweil may find different results.
I downloaded the daisy copy of "the rise and fall of the third Reich" and
opened it in Kurzweil.
There are random page numbers that do show in the book, page VII for
example. However, most are missing. But, Kurzweil is true to the book if
you make allowances for the extra page that bookshare adds in on page two.
For example, page 1524 in the book was reported on page 1525. So, to find
out what page you are on press shift f1 in the book and mentally add the
number 1 to whatever k1000 reports you are on.
I checked out header avoidance in the reading settings, making sure that
header avoidance was enabled. According to the manual, this should report
page headings, but it doesn't.
I swear the page numbers were there when the book was submitted to the
bookshare administration. I can only conclude that the stripper took them
out, or Kurzweil isn't reporting them.
I am going to save the book in .txt format, open it with a good old text
editor and see if page numbers and, I hope, page breaks are there. But,
don't hold your breath. I'll report it if there is any difference.
Bob
----- Original Message -----
From: Kenneth Cross
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 12:35 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help me with The Rise and Fall of the Third
Reich
Will the daisy tags indicate the actual page number or will those tags
reflect the number of pages, including introductory pages? Any way, I
will try that right now.
----- Original Message -----
From: Kellie Hartmann
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 12:51 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help me with The Rise and Fall of the Third
Reich
If you get the Daisy version, you can see the page numbers in the Daisy
tags using the Bookmark list commands. Otherwise, you can use a notetaker
or bookport or book courrier if you have one, or, if you need to, you can
use Internet Explorer to read the html version included with the Daisy
version. Use the Jaws placemarker commands to make bookmarks or save your
place, or convert the file back to txt with Explorer and put it back in
Kurzweil.
Kellie
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