What she probably would need to do is use the book and a reader as well. The reader would have to do less work, saving her some money, but she'd still need a reader. Sharon -----Original Message----- From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Grandma Cindy Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 5:32 AM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: An alternative to validating fair quality submissions You make sense, but the person asked for the book. Who could possibly validate a 505-book on statistical reasoning in time for someone to have it for class, unless the class is in a few months. I suppose the student felt that she'd rather have the book than pay for a reader. Presumably the scan is good enough that she can find it usable--and perfect it as she goes. G.Cindy --- Gary Petraccaro <garyp130@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Wow. Imagine getting a garbled book from a reading > service where you need > to understand it for class to actually participate. > This person would be > better off getting a good, old-fashioned reader. > The best thing BookShare could do would be to > contact the publisher. It's > better not to have an unreliable source than no > source because you'll end up > in the same place either way and in the second > instance, you will have more > time to deal with the reality. > I've read more than one message on the K1000 list > where people asked for a > way to deal with math books of one sort or another. > The answer was never > all that positive. > Sorry to sound so negative. I would much prefer not > to be. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Grandma Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 10:54 PM > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: An alternative to > validating fair quality > submissions > > > > Not necessarily, not if one needs it ASAP, for > class. > > Someone requested Elements of Statistical > Reasoning > > for a class she's taking, and it was added to the > > collection on Thursday, but it's rated Fair. By > the > > time anyone got it into Excellent shape the class > > probably would be over. Hopefully it's useful as > it > > is, and later on, if she has time during spring > break > > or this summer, or while she's reading it for > class, > > she can clean it up and then resubmit it as a BSO. > > The immediate need for a textbook book is why I > > suggested the exception. > > > > G.Cindy > > > > --- Gary Petraccaro <garyp130@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > >> The textbooks will always be held to a higher > >> standard. > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Grandma Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx> > >> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 5:23 PM > >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: An alternative to > >> validating fair quality > >> submissions > >> > >> > >> >I agree, and was going to suggest that > alternative. > >> > Maybe it's time the rules changed, *except* for > >> > textbooks needed by students for class. > >> > > >> > G.Cindy > >> > > >> > --- Ilene Sirocca <ilenesia@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> > > >> >> I certainly sympathize with this suggestion, > but > >> I > >> >> do have a problem with it. The problem is > that > >> so > >> >> far, book are not supposed to be rejected > because > >> >> they are rated fair. If they were, we wouldn't > >> have > >> >> the fair rating allowed in the first place. > If a > >> >> validator who is also a scanner rejects the > >> original > >> >> scanner's fair book and then submits a scan of > >> her > >> >> own, she takes away the original scanner's > >> credits, > >> >> no matter how undeserved they might be in > terms > >> of > >> >> book quality, and gives them to herself. This > is > >> >> not your intention, but this is what happens. > >> >> > >> >> If Bookshare wants to have more excellent > scans > >> it > >> >> has to go to the root of the problem and not > >> allow > >> >> people to submit fair scans, or maybe even > good > >> ones > >> >> although that's more debatable I suppose. > Yes, > >> some > >> >> scanners may drop out if they're held to a > higher > >> >> responsibility, so that has to be part of the > >> >> consideration of this matter. But if > excellent > >> >> books is what we are after, the original rules > >> have > >> >> to be tougher. If just getting as many books > as > >> >> possible is the goal, then fair scans have to > >> stay. > >> >> Personally, I'd vote for a slower groth rate > and > >> a > >> >> higher quality. > >> >> > >> >> There's my two cents' worth. > >> >> > >> >> Ilene > >> > > >> > > >> > WISH LIST (called Requested Additions To The > >> Bookshare Collection)is > >> > available at > >> > > >> > > > http://people.delphiforums.com/jamiecalton/Book_Requests.htm > >> > http://www.friendsofbookshare.org/ > >> > > >> > > > http://studentpages.alma.edu/~07jmyate/book_requests.htm > >> > > >> > www.jbrownell.com for miscellaneous and useful > >> threads > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ > >> > Never miss a thing. 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