the plan_table was just an example. it came up as part of another tar. I've had a few of these type things. also, what does oracle support have to work with? Most of the time they seem to use the OTN docs and metalink. do they have any internal docs? ---------------------------------------------------------------- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send email to: oracle-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put 'unsubscribe' in the subject line. -- Archives are at //www.freelists.org/archives/oracle-l/ FAQ is at //www.freelists.org/help/fom-serve/cache/1.html -----------------------------------------------------------------