> With the point 1, I couldn't agree more. There are people, even on this l= ist, > who are dangers for the cup holders on their machines and shouldn't go ne= ar a computer. > Giving internal information to people like that would be like giving a lo= aded gun > to a 5 years old: a recipe for disaster. Yep, but like Mark, I won't name names. :) > With point 3, I disagree. There are many "Oracle Internals" books, some b= y people who have > worked for Oracle and the best one from the guy who has never worked for = Oracle (Steve = > Adams). > Internal information is accessible to anybody, who knows the methodology = (block dumps, = > system dumps, > trace files for the events 10053 and and 10046). = Sorry, can't agree with you on this one. For starters, I know of NO-ONE el= se in the world like Steve. I'm sure they must exist, but you've just got = to admit that Steve is an absolute rarity in his ability to work out what h= e does given the level of access he has. And for seconds, as I'm sure Stev= e would agree, there are times (admittedly not too many, but they do exist)= where Steve publishes something that is in fact wrong. Of course, he's ve= ry up front about all of what he says, usually prefacing it with something = along the lines of "From what I've found from testing, this is what appears= to be happening", but there is no doubt in my mind that there is material = available internally that you could NEVER get without access to the source = code itself. And that, of course, is something very few people get access = to. > Some of the discussions on this list are > so technically detailed that the next level would be to write the actual = code. I have personally > done some rather nasty stuff to reveal oracle internals, but am not incl= ined to talk about that > in public. In other words, there isn't much that competitors couldn't fin= d out about Oracle. > Second, most of the interesting so called "internal documents", are about= bugs. That, my = > friend, > should not be a big secret, at least not for the Oracle's customers, as i= t is frequently = > extremely helpful and necessary information. Depends on your definition of the word "interesting" I suppose. But again,= I would have to disagree with you on this one. Pete ---------------------------------------------------------------- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send email to: oracle-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put 'unsubscribe' in the subject line. -- Archives are at //www.freelists.org/archives/oracle-l/ FAQ is at //www.freelists.org/help/fom-serve/cache/1.html -----------------------------------------------------------------