Ollie, Excellent idea. Open source and open design would benefit the creation and maintenance of a new optacon, I think. Looks like there are at least four of us former IBM people on this list. The optacon got me my job at IBM; I retired a few years ago, but the optacon was very much a part of my life there, and I still use it every day. Mary to view the list archives, go to: www.freelists.org/archives/optacon-l To unsubscribe at any time, just send a message to: optacon-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" (without the quotes) in the message subject. Tell your friends about the list. They can subscribe by sending a message to: optacon-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) in the message subject.