Nick, Alas, alack! It's sad to think of the things we forego in order to try to keep jobs we are destined to lose, anyway. That would have been an intriguing experience, indeed. I hope you have a chance to participate in work of particular interest. Suzanne -----Original Message----- From: optacon-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:optacon-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Nick Dotson Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 3:04 PM To: optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [optacon-l] Re: Seeing with your tongue. Navy Seals are using a variant of this device, and have been for a few years after 9/11. It was initially developed in Israel, and I have had the fortune to know both private funders of the effort and a few researchers on it. Unfortunately, at the time I was asked to participate as a guinea pig, I was trying to keep the job I knew even then I would eventually lose post merger--now I regret not having participated if only on the grounds of unabated curiosity. (sad sheepish expression) Nick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lerae Olesen" <lerae@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 6:57 AM Subject: [optacon-l] Re: Seeing with your tongue. > I'm not saying I wouldn't try to use this device if given the opportunity, > I'm only saying I have no idea what to expect. I, also, wonder about it's > practicality, although I'm sure people down through the ages have wondered > about the practicality of many new inventions--cars or telephones, just to > name two of the things we all take for granted now. > Thanks to Carolyn for sharing this information with all of us. > Lerae > (pronounced Le rae) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nick Dotson" <nickdotson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 1:38 AM > Subject: [optacon-l] Re: Seeing with your tongue. > > >>I would do it in a heartbeat if only out of curiosity. I believe I could >> learn to interpolate the data from that device just as I've learned to >> interpolate visual data projected onto my finger with the Optacon. The >> brain is flexible, we human user's of that organ have intellectual >> capacities, with those we can learn new things, just as a sighted person >> adventitiously blinded learns to use their tactual sensorum more >> effectively >> to read braille if they were an eager learner before and motivated to the >> desire to read again, and just as we congenitally blinded braille readers >> learned to use the unfamiliar print information encoding system, so we >> have >> the potential to learn to extract useful information from this Adaptive >> Technological tool. To give up with insufficient data, or suspect that >> one >> can't do something with no training and experience under one's belt is to >> accept the role of Loser at the outset! >> >> Nick >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Lerae Olesen" <lerae@xxxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 1:26 AM >> Subject: [optacon-l] Re: Seeing with your tongue. >> >> >>> Thanks, Rachel for bringing up that point. Those mentioned in the >>> article >>> had lost vision, even having artificial eyes, the brain still knew what >>> seeing had been like. I think it would be scary to try it, having never >>> had >>> any vision,not a speck. >>> I can't even imagine. >>> Lerae >>> (pronounced Le rae) >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Rachel" <rachel720@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> To: <optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 1:17 AM >>> Subject: [optacon-l] Re: Seeing with your tongue. >>> >>> >>>> My guess is that anyone who is congenitally blind or who was born >>>> totally blind would not benefit at all from this device. Anyone have >>>> any thoughts on this? >>>> Rachel >>>> >>>> >>>> to view the list archives, go to: >>>> >>>> www.freelists.org/archives/optacon-l >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe at any time, just send a message to: >>>> >>>> optacon-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" (without >>>> the >>>> quotes) in the message subject. >>>> >>>> Tell your friends about the list. 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