David, I have NVDA, but I'm not very familiar with how to use it with a mouse,
and the things I need to do are fairly complex.
If you can advise, please write me off-list. I'd love some help.
carcione@xxxxxxxxxx
Tracy
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From: optacon-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:optacon-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
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Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2015 2:59 PM
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Subject: [optacon-l] Re: Computers and mice
I just want to stress again that while we are waiting for a much improved
optacon, NVDA has much more ability to read what is under the mouse pointer.
You can move the pointer all over the screen, and NVDA will read every word
that pointer is on and you can click with the actual mouse just like a sighted
person. JAWS does not allow us to use the mouse like that at all. It does not
matter if the software is compatible or not like with JAWS. NVDA just reads
everything on the screen. There is a key command where you can move the mouse
pointer to where you are reading and then click with the mouse. There is a
brand new version that just came out a couple of months ago. It is much
better, and all access keys for the Internet are also there.
On 5/2/15, David Moore <jesusloves1966@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi, I have definitely noticed that the mouse pad is much easier toto view the list archives, go to:
manipulate than the regular mouse that lays on the desk beside a
desktop. I have a laptop at home, and I can use NVDA to move the
mouse right to where I want the pointer to be on the screen. As I
move my finger across the mouse pad on my laptop, NVDA will say where
the mouse pointer is and I can click just like a sighted person. NVDA
is a screen reader almost as good as JAWS that can be downloaded free.
There is a portable version that you can save on a USB drive that
doesn't need to be installed onto the computer. It runs right from
the USB drive. When I am at a friend's house, I just whip out my
drive from my pocket and fire up NVDA from the USB drive on their
computer. This allows me to use any computer, and use the mouse pad
like a sighted person and NVDA will tell me where the pointer is
almost as well as JAWS tells you where the JAWS cursor is reading and
even the PC cursor. You might want to try using NVDA at work, because
you might be able to use the mouse and have NVDA read everything you
are pointing to with the mouse. JAWS will not do that. If you are
interested in downloading a version of NVDA onto a flash drive, I will
post the link from where you can download it from. You can just take
your flash drive to work and insert it and use JAWS to find NVDA on
the flash drive and then fire up NVDA and then turn off JAWS. I
really think you then could use the mouse and NVDA would tell you what
the pointer is on and read it to you. Remember, NVDA is totally free
and requires no installation on any computer!!! Now, when the optacon
can follow the mouse pointer, this will bring in an entire new world
for the blind. I can't wait until I can sit down at my sighted
friends' computers and whip out the optican and use their computer
with the mouse just like they do. I am 49 years old, so I hope it
happens in the next ten years so I am healthy enough to dance for an
hour and celebrate all night lol!!!!!
On 5/2/15, maureen hogg <m.e.hogg@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I've accomplished similar functions with a CRT lens and Optacon. I
can even pick up on the mouse pointer, although to use the mouse is
another question entirely. Were any of you aware that a mouse pad on
a laptop is more easily accessed than the hand-held mouse on a
regular desktop PC? I use HAWS 16 on a Lenovo ThinkPad laptop and
can manipulate the mouse pad and get results on a Focus 40 Blue. A
recent skill I've learned.
Cheers!
Maureen
On 5/2/2015 8:03 AM, Tracy Carcione wrote:
We're slowly switching to a new computer system at work. My boss
and I have been working like mad to make it accessible, but, so far,
there are screens Jaws just isn't reading at all. I was able to use
the Optacon to read my monitor and at least tell the people on the
conference call what was happening. Hooray!
If there were a way to coordinate the Optacon with a mouse, as we've
been discussing lately, it would open up whole new areas for blind
people.
For
me, it could mean the difference between continued employment and
early retirement. It may not come to that, but it's a definite possibility.
And then there are those screens that Jaws reads just fine, but the
developer left out all keyboard access, and the only way to execute
a link is to click with a mouse. Grrr.
Tracy
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