After reading the posts on this group, I, too, downloaded Safar 4 [G4 10.4.11]. I'm still finding my way around tabs but like the idea of tabbed browsing which downsizes the whole browser and all tabs at once as I could never retain the info for the keyboard shortcut that accomplishes the same thing. I'm not liking the sleeker look of across the top but that is immaterial to its functioning. Theresa --- MUGLO information at <http://www.freewebs.com/muglo> Manage your account options at <//www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/lsg2.cgi>