Tee, if you are having problems downloading the Tiger version, let me know; with Doug's permission, I can upload the dmg file to the google site for a day or two and you can download from there. Wayne Dobson pwdobson@xxxxxxxxxx (519) 474-1253 res. (519) 860-2725 cell --- MUGLO information at <http://www.freewebs.com/muglo> Manage your account options at <//www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/lsg2.cgi>