I find this all quite interesting. Like I said when I first heard about it it all seemed too good to be true and therefore .... Can't imagine I'd never heard of such a thing. I knew about VOIP but didn't see it worthwhile for me. This, on the other hand, sounds like something I can use if I can master it since I only want to talk to my family in Vancouver. jim ----------------------------------------------------------- For information about MUGLO: http://www.freewebs.com/muglo -----------------------------------------------------------