One other thought... try doing a basic system reinstall ("hide" the existing system folder (move the Finder out of the main level of the system folder, and rename the system folder), install a new OS 8 (or 7 if you so desire) and try connecting to AppleShare servers (OS 7, 8, 9, or X)). L8r, Eric. Users can subscribe to the List by sending an email to <muglo-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> with 'subscribe' in the Subject field Users can unsubscribe from the List by sending an email to <muglo-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field Users must send messages or replies to <muglo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> All messages are archived so that you can view them at any time by going to <//www.freelists.org/archives/muglo> Problems concerning use of the FreeList should be sent to <paulthomas@xxxxxxx> Don't forget to periodically check our web site at: http://muglo.on.ca/