i am just wondering when everyone is going to drop this it is just a kid who doesnt deserve to get dog and on top of that it is old news cant we just move on. geocaching is geocacheing no matter what group your involved in or what perks you get it is all about the fun of going out and finding the cache. Tammy(lil devil) --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now